"I support it only if it's open source" should be a more common viewpoint
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I’m an open source developer who’s put thousands of hours of work into my open source projects.
- Amount of money I’ve made from writing and maintaining open source projects: $0
- Amount of money I’ve made from writing and maintaining closed source projects: idk exactly, but probably close to $1,000,000 (over ten years of working in big tech)
I get wanting to use open source software. I want to use open source software. I want to write open source software. I do write open source software. But please understand that I only do that because I enjoy it. I also need to pay the bills, and there’s not much money in writing open source software.
If you value an open source project, especially if it’s just a small development team that doesn’t sell anything, please donate to them.
Right now, I run an email service, https://port87.com/, and it is technically closed source. But it’s built on my open source projects, Svelte Material UI, Nymph.js, and Nephele. Probably about 70% of the code that makes up Port87 is open source, and if you use Port87, you’re helping me continue to develop those open source projects. So even if you don’t donate to open source projects, there are other ways to contribute. Support companies who support open source projects.
The early mobile phone apps conditioned people to expect things free.
I donate to any project, open or closed source if it's worth it.
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What are your thoughts? Any counter-counter points to the author's response to most concerns regarding open source?
This is a strange and unappealing way of reasoning about free/libre software. He sounds like he wants to be one of the sharks leveraging technology against people. I think this guy should brush up on the writings of Richard Stallman.
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I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted. What you said is true.
It reminded me of an older writing about it:
Open source doesn’t make money because it isn’t designed to make money
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Technically, according to the GPLv3 you don’t need to make the source code publically available. If you sell software with binaries then their source code must be included with it. If you’re Red Hat you can also add an additional ToS to the website that states if you buy the software you can’t freely distribute the source code you download from the website or you will be sued to oblivion.
You cannot make restrictions to the distribution of the source code under the GPL
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What are your thoughts? Any counter-counter points to the author's response to most concerns regarding open source?
Counterpoint: "I support drone strikes in random developing countries as long as the drones are open source" doesn't really sound that good lol
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What are your thoughts? Any counter-counter points to the author's response to most concerns regarding open source?
Paying for closed source software is kind of like voting for your oppressors. Using closed source software is literally like giving away access to your computer in hope that your computer may be used in a way you’d prefer… The software economy is the only reason I don’t create software. The customer is rarely the user.
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Counterpoint: "I support drone strikes in random developing countries as long as the drones are open source" doesn't really sound that good lol
How about, if we must have military drones, they should be open source.
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What are your thoughts? Any counter-counter points to the author's response to most concerns regarding open source?
Consider, though, the value you received in non-monetary terms. How much would you have had to pay?
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How about, if we must have military drones, they should be open source.
Yea this phrasing sounds a lot better
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I’m an open source developer who’s put thousands of hours of work into my open source projects.
- Amount of money I’ve made from writing and maintaining open source projects: $0
- Amount of money I’ve made from writing and maintaining closed source projects: idk exactly, but probably close to $1,000,000 (over ten years of working in big tech)
I get wanting to use open source software. I want to use open source software. I want to write open source software. I do write open source software. But please understand that I only do that because I enjoy it. I also need to pay the bills, and there’s not much money in writing open source software.
If you value an open source project, especially if it’s just a small development team that doesn’t sell anything, please donate to them.
Right now, I run an email service, https://port87.com/, and it is technically closed source. But it’s built on my open source projects, Svelte Material UI, Nymph.js, and Nephele. Probably about 70% of the code that makes up Port87 is open source, and if you use Port87, you’re helping me continue to develop those open source projects. So even if you don’t donate to open source projects, there are other ways to contribute. Support companies who support open source projects.
Yup, I'm the same way. If I could work in FOSS, I'd be happy to take a pay cut, but FOSS doesn't pay anywhere near good enough. So it'll remain a hobby.
As such, I'm pretty reasonable about what needs to be open source, and what's fine being proprietary. For example:
- OS - must be FOSS
- games - proprietary is fine, but no privileged access (e.g. kernel level anti-cheat)
- web browser - must be FOSS
- web services - proprietary is fine, provided they don't collect a creepy amount of info about me
Basically, the more risk there is of a security issue, the more I expect it to be FOSS. And I'm willing to help out too. I've submitted patches to Lemmy and other FOSS projects I use, and I'll donate something similar to what I'd pay for a proprietary app for certain projects.
