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The State of Consumer AI: AI’s Consumer Tipping Point Has Arrived - Only 3%* of US AI users are willing to pay for it.

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  • One way to interpret this is "ha, people consider AI worthless!"

    However another way to interpret this is the same way users view everything on the web, from social media to journalism and media streaming: this should be free and they should use my data and advertise to me instead, consequences/enshittification be damned.

    The key difference being that AI is a much, much more expensive product to deliver than anything else on the web. Even compared to streaming video content, AI is orders of magnitude higher in terms of its cost to deliver.

    What this means is that providing AI on the model you're describing is impossible. You simply cannot pack in enough advertising to make ChatGPT profitable. You can't make enough from user data to be worth the operating costs.

    AI fundamentally does not work as a "free" product. Users need to be willing to pony up serious amounts of money for it. OpenAI have straight up said that even their most expensive subscriber tier operates at a loss.

    Maybe that would work, if you could sell it as a boutique product, something for only a very exclusive club of wealthy buyers. Only that model is also an immediate dead end, because the training costs to build a model are the same whether you make that model for 10 people or 10 billion, and those training costs are astronomical. To get any kind of return on investment these companies need to sell a very, very expensive product to a market that is far too narrow to support it.

    There's no way to square this circle. Their bet was that AI would be so vital, so essential to every facet of our lives that everyone would be paying for it. They thought they had the new cellphone here; a $40/month subscription plan from almost every adult in the developed world. What they have instead is a product with zero path to profitability.

  • The key difference being that AI is a much, much more expensive product to deliver than anything else on the web. Even compared to streaming video content, AI is orders of magnitude higher in terms of its cost to deliver.

    What this means is that providing AI on the model you're describing is impossible. You simply cannot pack in enough advertising to make ChatGPT profitable. You can't make enough from user data to be worth the operating costs.

    AI fundamentally does not work as a "free" product. Users need to be willing to pony up serious amounts of money for it. OpenAI have straight up said that even their most expensive subscriber tier operates at a loss.

    Maybe that would work, if you could sell it as a boutique product, something for only a very exclusive club of wealthy buyers. Only that model is also an immediate dead end, because the training costs to build a model are the same whether you make that model for 10 people or 10 billion, and those training costs are astronomical. To get any kind of return on investment these companies need to sell a very, very expensive product to a market that is far too narrow to support it.

    There's no way to square this circle. Their bet was that AI would be so vital, so essential to every facet of our lives that everyone would be paying for it. They thought they had the new cellphone here; a $40/month subscription plan from almost every adult in the developed world. What they have instead is a product with zero path to profitability.

    I'm patently against subscriptions but am currently paying for ChatGPT plus. I'm also that girl who's installed other models on some decently beefy machines and have compared/contrasted. While I also don't think AI is going to be everything to all people and that it has very specific applications, I'm literally the target audience and I've found ChatGPT to be superior in everything except math/complex problems/coding. That's what I've got Mixtral for. ^_^

  • Youtube and search have ads as the main revenue source, not subscriptions. It's not a fair comparison.

    Paying gives advantages on youtube, just the same as ChatGPT.

  • Paying gives advantages on youtube, just the same as ChatGPT.

    I asked Claude for the data (hehe):

    "YouTube is primarily an advertising-driven business model (73% ads vs 27% subscriptions), while ChatGPT operates as a subscription-first business (84% subscriptions vs 15% API/other revenue)."

    See the difference?

  • I'm patently against subscriptions but am currently paying for ChatGPT plus. I'm also that girl who's installed other models on some decently beefy machines and have compared/contrasted. While I also don't think AI is going to be everything to all people and that it has very specific applications, I'm literally the target audience and I've found ChatGPT to be superior in everything except math/complex problems/coding. That's what I've got Mixtral for. ^_^

    Thank God someone else has a well-thought-out well-reasoned interpretation of all of this. And the same use case as me. Cheers, Internet, friend. 🙌

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    In short, AI is widely used across the board, even though people deny it on social media.

  • I asked Claude for the data (hehe):

    "YouTube is primarily an advertising-driven business model (73% ads vs 27% subscriptions), while ChatGPT operates as a subscription-first business (84% subscriptions vs 15% API/other revenue)."

    See the difference?

    Of course I do, but ChatGPT still has a free option. And the basis to compare paid subscriptions when there is also a free option stand IMO.
    Without a good free option, how would it be only 5% who pay? It's exactly the same as with Youtube in that regard.

    The free option is a form of advertising and allowing people to get to know the service. With Youtube the free option isn't really free, you pay by allowing advertising.
    So by that comparison Youtube is actually the worse free option of the two. And despite that more people pay for ChatGPT.
    So your argument that they are not the same, actually makes ChatGPT numbers even more impressive not less.

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    Cuz it sucks and it's worth all of the zero dollars it costs. 😆👍

  • Of course I do, but ChatGPT still has a free option. And the basis to compare paid subscriptions when there is also a free option stand IMO.
    Without a good free option, how would it be only 5% who pay? It's exactly the same as with Youtube in that regard.

    The free option is a form of advertising and allowing people to get to know the service. With Youtube the free option isn't really free, you pay by allowing advertising.
    So by that comparison Youtube is actually the worse free option of the two. And despite that more people pay for ChatGPT.
    So your argument that they are not the same, actually makes ChatGPT numbers even more impressive not less.

    Sorry but you're completely missing the point. You can't compare 5% conversion rate of a subscription-first model and ad-first model. Youtube is optimizing their business around ads, they are definitely not doing everything they can to increase their conversion rate. ChatGPT on the other hand is aiming for as high conversion rate as possible. I don't know if 5% conversion rate is high or low for ChatGPT but comparing it with YT simply doesn't make sense.

  • Sorry but you're completely missing the point. You can't compare 5% conversion rate of a subscription-first model and ad-first model. Youtube is optimizing their business around ads, they are definitely not doing everything they can to increase their conversion rate. ChatGPT on the other hand is aiming for as high conversion rate as possible. I don't know if 5% conversion rate is high or low for ChatGPT but comparing it with YT simply doesn't make sense.

    they are definitely not doing everything they can to increase their conversion rate.

    Oh you mean like prompting users to buy extra services all the time?
    Yes they are actually doing exactly that.

  • they are definitely not doing everything they can to increase their conversion rate.

    Oh you mean like prompting users to buy extra services all the time?
    Yes they are actually doing exactly that.

    No, I don't mean prompting users. Typical ways to increase conversion rate are locking popular features behind the subscription (like you need premium account to comment), making some content available only to premium users or limiting the amount of content you can access as a free user (like only 2h per day). So far I'm still watching videos on youtube without even creating an account and without ads (ad-block).

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    £ says: "The fuck they are, mate!"
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    They will say something like solar went from 600gw to 1000 thats a 66% increase this year and coal only increased 40% except coal is 3600gw to 6400. Hrmmmm, maybe these numbers are outdated? Based on this coal and gas are down: In Q1 2025, solar generation rose 48% compared to the same period in 2024. Solar power reached 254 TWh, making up 10% of total electricity. This was the largest increase among all clean energy sources. Coal-fired electricity dropped by 4%, falling to 1,421 TWh. Gas-fired power also went down by 4%, reaching 67 TWh https://carboncredits.com/china-sets-clean-energy-record-in-early-2025-with-951-tw/ are no where close to what is required to meet their climate goals Which ones in particular are you talking about? Trump signs executive order directing US withdrawal from the Paris climate agreement — again https://apnews.com/article/trump-paris-agreement-climate-change-788907bb89fe307a964be757313cdfb0 China vowed on Tuesday to continue participating in two cornerstone multinational arrangements -- the World Health Organization and Paris climate accord -- after newly sworn-in US President Donald Trump ordered withdrawals from them. https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250121-china-says-committed-to-who-paris-climate-deal-after-us-pulls-out What's that saying? You hate it when the person you hate is doing good? I can't remember what it is I can't fault them for what they're doing at the moment, even if they are run by an evil dictatorship and do pollute the most I’m not sure how european defense spending is relevant It suggests there is money available in the bank to fund solar/wind/battery, but instead they are preparing for? something? what? who knows. France can make a fighter jet at home but not solar panels apparently. Prehaps they would be made in a country with environmental and labour laws if governments legislated properly to prevent companies outsourcing manufacturing. However this doesnt absolve china. China isnt being forced at Gunpoint to produce these goods with low labour regulation and low environmental regulation. You're right, it doesn't absolve china, and I avoid purchasing things from them wherever possible, my solar panels and EV were made in South Korea, my home battery was made in Germany, there are only a few things in my house made in China, most of them I got second hand but unfortunately there is no escaping the giant of manufacturing. With that said it's one thing for me to sit here and tut tut at China, but I realise I am not most people, the most clearest example is the extreme anti-ai, anti-billionaire bias on this platform, in real life most people don't give a fuck, they love Amazon/Microsoft/Google/Apple etc, they can't go a day without them. So I consider myself a realist, if you want people to buy your stuff then you will need to make the conditions possible for them to WANT to buy your stuff, not out of some moral lecture and Europe isn't doing that, if we look at energy prices: Can someone actually point out to me where this comes from? ... At the end of the day energy is a small % of EU household spending I was looking at corporate/business energy use: Major European companies are already moving to cut costs and retain their competitive edge. For example, Thyssenkrupp, Germany’s largest steelmaker, said on Monday it would slash 11,000 jobs in its steel division by 2030, in a major corporate reshuffle. https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/High-Energy-Costs-Continue-to-Plague-European-Industry.html Prices have since fallen but are still high compared to other countries. A poll by Germany's DIHK Chambers of Industry and Commerce of around 3,300 companies showed that 37% were considering cutting production or moving abroad, up from 31% last year and 16% in 2022. For energy-intensive industrial firms some 45% of companies were mulling slashing output or relocation, the survey showed. "The trust of the German economy in energy policy is severely damaged," Achim Dercks, DIHK deputy chief executive said, adding that the government had not succeeded in providing companies with a perspective for reliable and affordable energy supply. https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/more-german-companies-mull-relocation-due-high-energy-prices-survey-2024-08-01/ I've seen nothing to suggest energy prices in the EU are SO cheap that it's worth moving manufacturing TO Europe, and this is what annoys me the most. I've pointed this out before but they have an excellent report on the issues: https://commission.europa.eu/document/download/97e481fd-2dc3-412d-be4c-f152a8232961_en?filename=The+future+of+European+competitiveness+_+A+competitiveness+strategy+for+Europe.pdf Then they put out this Competitive Compass: https://commission.europa.eu/topics/eu-competitiveness/competitiveness-compass_en But tbh every week in the EU it seems like they are chasing after some other goal. This would be great, it would have been greater 10 years ago. Agreed
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