Intel CPU Temperature Monitoring Driver For Linux Now Unmaintained After Layoffs
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I am quite surprised at the amount of people that think people exist that would praise a monopoly and celebrate shareholder value.
If you’ve never been to the US, don’t. Half the population unironically hold those beliefs as sacred.
Okay celebrating shareholder value I get in an indoctrinated pure* capitalist society.
But praising a monopoly? Wasn't that one of the main points capitalism should prevent?
The free market brings about competitors when they are needed.
Which does not hold true in reality due to various reasons and dynamics like entry cost...
Edit: These two are related as monopoly -> big shareholder value. Still the free market should prevent monopolies. Sooo Ahhh.
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This isn't completely true. Even a basic instruction like ADD has multiple implementations depending on the memory sources.
For example, if the memory operand is in RAM, then the ADD needs to be decoded to include a fetch before the actual addition. RISC doesn't change that fact.
Yes, but RISC knows the exact position of that instruction in cache and how many instructions fit the instructions cache or pipeline. Like you said, it doesn't help with data cache.
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There's no way politicians will let one of the most important chip manufacturers die. If push comes to shove, they'll get subsidies
Didn't the orange one threaten tsmc to buy 49% of Intel or will get higher tariffs?
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Yes, but RISC knows the exact position of that instruction in cache and how many instructions fit the instructions cache or pipeline. Like you said, it doesn't help with data cache.
Are you sure there's a significant difference in machine code between RISC and CISC after instructions are decoded?
The assembly in RISC is just an abstraction of the machine code, as it also is in CISC. If the underlying CPU has the same capabilities then it doesn't really matter what the assembly looks like?
Of course, the underlying CPUs aren't the same and that's the real point of differentiation.
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I've been a gushing fanboy since I had a discount $200 laptop that ran mass effect 3 with an integrated GPU.
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Okay celebrating shareholder value I get in an indoctrinated pure* capitalist society.
But praising a monopoly? Wasn't that one of the main points capitalism should prevent?
The free market brings about competitors when they are needed.
Which does not hold true in reality due to various reasons and dynamics like entry cost...
Edit: These two are related as monopoly -> big shareholder value. Still the free market should prevent monopolies. Sooo Ahhh.
You’re assuming the indoctrinated ever bothered to learn what they’re celebrating as opposed to cheering in capitalism like it’s their favorite football team.
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Intel CPU Temperature Monitoring Driver For Linux Now Unmaintained After Layoffs
There is yet more apparent fallout from Intel's recent layoffs/restructurings as it impacts the Linux kernel..
(www.phoronix.com)
Coretemp and Ethernet. Also a few years ago the guy that maintained meshcentral (the only reason to pay extra $$$ for having Intel vPro compatibile computers in the workspace)
Basically this tells their biggest customers "next server needs to be based on AMD epyc"
How much money they could possibly "save" with those THREE salaries? Just cut one week of travel with private jet for the C class and the same savings are served
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There's no way politicians will let one of the most important chip manufacturers die. If push comes to shove, they'll get subsidies
Probably not, but these morons will probably wait until too much damage is done. They’re shortsighted AF.
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Trump's 100% tariffs on chips made outside the USA is puzzling. It it an attempt to force Intel, who do make chips in the USA, to become more competitive just through bullying everyone? Or does he know it will just cause more trouble and is he trying to drive Intel into the ground for revenge because they took Biden's money? Why is he also demanding that Intel's CEO resign? Does none of it make sense because Trump is a crazy old narcissist who has lost touch with reality and is now losing his mind?
The tariff thing just shows that Trump doesn’t understand why people use TSMC. TSMC doesn’t have a brand of chips that they sell, and they can’t copy your designs.
Companies don’t manufacture with Intel because Intel isn’t just their manufacturer, it’s their competitor. Also, Intel’s fab is now behind the curve. It literally can’t manufacture some of the shit Apple and Nvidia want.
Trump sees a rash and is prescribing cortisone cream. But the skin irritation is from melanoma.
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Sure, but in the meantime I need to work with what I have... which is Intel (on some machines, at least).
Nothing wrong with that, but when given the choice... I'll go AMD. I think I bought an i5 one time only in my life and I'm old.
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From what I remember one of problems with CISC is that it has variable length instructions and these are harder to predict since you have to analyze all instructions up to the current one wheres for RISC you exactly know where is each instruction in memory/cache.
one of problems with CISC is that it has variable length instructions
RISC systems also have variable length instructions, they're just a bit stricter with the implementation that alleviates a lot of the issues (ARM instructions are always either 16-bits or 32-bits, while RISC-V is always a multiple of 16-bits and self-describing, similar to UTF-8)
Edit: Oh, and ARM further restricts instruction length based on a CPU flag, so you can't mix and match at an instruction level. It's always one or the other, or it's invalid.
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Coretemp and Ethernet. Also a few years ago the guy that maintained meshcentral (the only reason to pay extra $$$ for having Intel vPro compatibile computers in the workspace)
Basically this tells their biggest customers "next server needs to be based on AMD epyc"
How much money they could possibly "save" with those THREE salaries? Just cut one week of travel with private jet for the C class and the same savings are served
But how else is the CEO going to cheat on his wife? Cold play concerts are def out of the picture now.
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one of problems with CISC is that it has variable length instructions
RISC systems also have variable length instructions, they're just a bit stricter with the implementation that alleviates a lot of the issues (ARM instructions are always either 16-bits or 32-bits, while RISC-V is always a multiple of 16-bits and self-describing, similar to UTF-8)
Edit: Oh, and ARM further restricts instruction length based on a CPU flag, so you can't mix and match at an instruction level. It's always one or the other, or it's invalid.
I was thinking about Apple's M CPUs that have fixed length and they benefit out of it. It was explained on Anandtech years ago, here is a brief paragraph on the topic. Sadly Anandtech article(s) isn't available anymore.
Since this type of chip has a fixed instruction length, it becomes simple to load a large number of instructions and explore opportunities to execute operations in parallel. This is what’s called out-of-order execution, as explained by Anandtech in a highly technical analysis of the M1. Since complex CISC instructions can access memory before completing an operation, executing instructions in parallel becomes more difficult in contrast to the simpler RISC instructions.
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Are you sure there's a significant difference in machine code between RISC and CISC after instructions are decoded?
The assembly in RISC is just an abstraction of the machine code, as it also is in CISC. If the underlying CPU has the same capabilities then it doesn't really matter what the assembly looks like?
Of course, the underlying CPUs aren't the same and that's the real point of differentiation.
See my other reply
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I was thinking about Apple's M CPUs that have fixed length and they benefit out of it. It was explained on Anandtech years ago, here is a brief paragraph on the topic. Sadly Anandtech article(s) isn't available anymore.
Since this type of chip has a fixed instruction length, it becomes simple to load a large number of instructions and explore opportunities to execute operations in parallel. This is what’s called out-of-order execution, as explained by Anandtech in a highly technical analysis of the M1. Since complex CISC instructions can access memory before completing an operation, executing instructions in parallel becomes more difficult in contrast to the simpler RISC instructions.
Ahh, yep it turns out ARM actually removed Thumb support with their 64-bit transition, so their instruction length is fixed now, and Thumb never made it into the M* SoCs.
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There is /s but I opted not to use it.
Using it makes the sarcasm less "fun"/rewarding for me.I am quite surprised at the amount of people that think people exist that would praise a monopoly and celebrate shareholder value. Sadly people thinking that means that they have encountered people who hold such beliefs seriously. Which is quite sad.
the problem is that those people actually exist and post. so it is hard to see the difference btw the monopoly/technocratic feudalists and the average sarcastic poster. being naive about that group is probably your first mistake. sorry for the heavy eyeroll and expression of disgust. Maybe find another way to have "fun?"
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Yeah, wouldn't it be amazing if for example Apple has the monopoly on the smartphone market, so your purchasing decision would be to buy an iPhone, or a slightly larger iPhone? And they would have no competition - which is the definition of a monopoly - so they could price them at whatever they wanted to, they could even make the American iPhone a reality, because let's be real, it's kinda hard to function without a phone these days so who cares if it costs $5k, you can just sell a kidney, right? You got two of 'em.
Monopolies are such a great thing for consumers
(Please don't sell a kidney for an iPhone, it's a really bad decision.)
That is what the tariffs are for and Apple has promised to invest a shit ton of money into manufacturing those phones here... so they can raise the prices to the ceiling of the tariffs imposed on China, India, Thailand, Indonesia ... etc. There are no other smart phones manufactured in the US so they will effectively... have a monopoly.
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Trump's 100% tariffs on chips made outside the USA is puzzling. It it an attempt to force Intel, who do make chips in the USA, to become more competitive just through bullying everyone? Or does he know it will just cause more trouble and is he trying to drive Intel into the ground for revenge because they took Biden's money? Why is he also demanding that Intel's CEO resign? Does none of it make sense because Trump is a crazy old narcissist who has lost touch with reality and is now losing his mind?
there is no real rationale. Trump is all impulse, no long range thinking/planning.
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Trump loooves to take action. Coherent plan or direction is irrelevant.
Good luck US, still some to go.
Right? Good Luck America. FAFO.
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There's no way politicians will let one of the most important chip manufacturers die. If push comes to shove, they'll get subsidies
or they will just move overseas.
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