‘Alexa, what do you know about us?’ What I discovered when I asked Amazon to tell me everything my family’s smart speaker had heard
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"Pizza Over Privacy", a Stanford study... https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/insights/pizza-over-privacy-paradox-digital-age
Basically, people trade their privacy for convenience and don't consider the long term cost.To see whether a small incentive could influence a decision about privacy, researchers offered one group of students a free pizza — as long as they disclosed three friends’ email addresses.An overwhelming majority of the students chose pizza over protecting their friends’ privacy.
While I don't dispute the thesis, this is deeply flawed.
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‘Alexa, what do you know about us?’ What I discovered when I asked Amazon to tell me everything my family’s smart speaker had heard
For years, Alexa has been our on-call vet, DJ, teacher, parent, therapist and whipping boy. What secrets would the data reveal?
the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)
I feel like I looked into a bag labeled 'everything Alexa has ever heard' and gone, "I don't know what I expected."
On the other side of the coin, the shock shouldn't be what it knows, but what every single other device you own with a micrphone might also know.
Anyone here that isn't as equally distrusting of a stock, off the shelf cellphone is lying to themselves.
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‘Alexa, what do you know about us?’ What I discovered when I asked Amazon to tell me everything my family’s smart speaker had heard
For years, Alexa has been our on-call vet, DJ, teacher, parent, therapist and whipping boy. What secrets would the data reveal?
the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)
It's completely irrelevant to the article, but I can't believe nobody mentioned how many fucking headphones this person goes through lol
particulars of every purchase I’ve ever made – from the noir novel I bought on the day that Amazon UK launched to the 28th pair of headphones acquired in as many years
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It doesn't really matter whether Zigbee was merged into something else, because it simply doesn't have any technical means of phoning home. It simply can't access the Internet.
There's no intermediate corporate owned servers, there's no proprietary software.
So it doesn't really matter what the corporation does because it can't affect my "smart" devices.
other than drop all support when "big ma bell" enters the chat with a corporate competitor and you have aging infrastructure built into your home.
it'll be like those crappy intercom wall units from the 1970s all over again, except you won't be able to turn on your lights or plugs.
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It's completely irrelevant to the article, but I can't believe nobody mentioned how many fucking headphones this person goes through lol
particulars of every purchase I’ve ever made – from the noir novel I bought on the day that Amazon UK launched to the 28th pair of headphones acquired in as many years
they have hostile lobes
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‘Alexa, what do you know about us?’ What I discovered when I asked Amazon to tell me everything my family’s smart speaker had heard
For years, Alexa has been our on-call vet, DJ, teacher, parent, therapist and whipping boy. What secrets would the data reveal?
the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)
I asked that to chatgpt once and it's answer was something like "You like to translate R code to Python" just because I sometimes ask it's to translate R to Python, but I don't personally like it
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other than drop all support when "big ma bell" enters the chat with a corporate competitor and you have aging infrastructure built into your home.
it'll be like those crappy intercom wall units from the 1970s all over again, except you won't be able to turn on your lights or plugs.
Even if all support is dropped, everything is running on open source software, so nothing is going to stop working as a result of dropped support.
Finding replacements might become tricky at some point though.
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They do, so far.
They do, so far as anyone is aware.
They do, so far as anyone is aware.
They do, so far as anyone is aware or can know, yes.
I said “so far” because I think continuing to test their claims remains important, as they keep making new equipment and are a large public corporation whose only moral code is increasing shareholder value.
But I’m not interested in conspiracy theories. Sorry.
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but at least Apple has a track record of respecting privacy.
...to keep the same amount of data for themselve.
Don't kid yourself. Apple collects the same amount as everyone else does. And if either get hacked, it doesnt matter if they keep it or sell it.
- There is absolutely no possible comparison between the colossal scale of data collected by Google throughout routine operation of their products and the anonymous diagnostic data users can optionally send to Apple.
- The entire point of E2EE is that it remains encrypted in storage and transit. No one wants to buy encrypted consumer data right now unless it’s a very old protocol and guaranteed sensitive.
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I cannot comprehend people who agree to have a spy in their own home and they even pay for the privilege.
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I dont know about other models but I think I have managed to limit how much my phone (fairphone) spies on me quite decently.
I installed application called ReThink, which is basically a firewall and I can block even google services with it. I know it works because its really pain in the ass when I want to use their services like calendar and i have to temporarily unblock it. It can also block ads by completely blocking internet for programs that dont really need it. I have also removed/disabled anything extra and removed permissions to anything that absolutely doesn't need it. It also alerted me to that stupid google safetycore spyware being installed (by blocking and informing about newly installed program) so i managed to remove that immediately.
At least according to the logs the phone seems secure, since nothing is being allowed to connect anywhere that shouldn't be allowed. Can't do much to occasional breaches due to restarts or temporary allowings, but I dont think such sparse information is much use or it might require more effort to utilise.
I, too, have Rethink: DNS + Firewall + VPN installed. Prior to this I was using NetGuard.
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- There is absolutely no possible comparison between the colossal scale of data collected by Google throughout routine operation of their products and the anonymous diagnostic data users can optionally send to Apple.
- The entire point of E2EE is that it remains encrypted in storage and transit. No one wants to buy encrypted consumer data right now unless it’s a very old protocol and guaranteed sensitive.
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Like this? https://ads.apple.com/
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My parents' ISP router has Alexa integrated into it
whatthefuck
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It's completely irrelevant to the article, but I can't believe nobody mentioned how many fucking headphones this person goes through lol
particulars of every purchase I’ve ever made – from the noir novel I bought on the day that Amazon UK launched to the 28th pair of headphones acquired in as many years
Maybe they have lots of ears.
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It's completely irrelevant to the article, but I can't believe nobody mentioned how many fucking headphones this person goes through lol
particulars of every purchase I’ve ever made – from the noir novel I bought on the day that Amazon UK launched to the 28th pair of headphones acquired in as many years
someone need to backbone capitalism, he is a hero
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Like this? https://ads.apple.com/
Yes, in fact. That’s a good example.
The API for the ads allowed on-platform (only in their “App Store” and “News” products to my knowledge) is also used internally, which you can verify yourself by simply inspecting network traffic. The component instrumentation is obviously meager compared to the rich analytics and user behavior tracking data offered by virtually every other platform.
But the foremost restriction is granularity. Neither internal analytics nor advertisers are ever provided a persistent user identifier. The advertising ID is generated on-device and doesn’t persist with device reset. That’s unheard of on platforms like Google, Meta, Amazon, etc.
In-app tracking is allowed but subject to item by item opt-in user permission and is similarly restrictive, audited with package submission (they will reject the submission if you attempt to circumvent the API to extract more/better data from the user). What I’m describing is draconian compared to most platforms, especially carrier-manufacturer Android distributions in many countries.
I mostly use custom roms and distros personally, and I’m not even trying to convince you Apple is in some way more ethical than other big tech cos. I just don’t like seeing misinfo and hearsay spread around for any purpose, especially when that purpose is apparently bullying other users for upvotes.
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To see whether a small incentive could influence a decision about privacy, researchers offered one group of students a free pizza — as long as they disclosed three friends’ email addresses.An overwhelming majority of the students chose pizza over protecting their friends’ privacy.
While I don't dispute the thesis, this is deeply flawed.
Why flawed?
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I asked that to chatgpt once and it's answer was something like "You like to translate R code to Python" just because I sometimes ask it's to translate R to Python, but I don't personally like it
You don't like doing it so you ask something else to do it for you.
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It's completely irrelevant to the article, but I can't believe nobody mentioned how many fucking headphones this person goes through lol
particulars of every purchase I’ve ever made – from the noir novel I bought on the day that Amazon UK launched to the 28th pair of headphones acquired in as many years
Clearly written by a Ferengi.
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‘Alexa, what do you know about us?’ What I discovered when I asked Amazon to tell me everything my family’s smart speaker had heard
For years, Alexa has been our on-call vet, DJ, teacher, parent, therapist and whipping boy. What secrets would the data reveal?
the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)
you can go into the app and literally see your request history
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