public services of an entire german state switches from Microsoft to open source (Libreoffice, Linux, Nextcloud, Thunderbird)
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Please become a thing. Having viruses custom tailored for your OS means you've made it.
There already are. I barely missed a linux virus from a hijacked python package what... two years ago?
Linux desktops are quite non-homogenous though, so their vectors/nature is kinda different.
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Germany has done this multiple times before. Microsoft has historically swept in with some sweetheart deal to lure them back.
Hopefully it sticks this time.
Hard to catch fish if you see the fish as dumb idiots, for some reason the fish don't seem to respond well to it idk.
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188K doesnt sound much
A cost worth cutting nonetheless
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I don't wanna "make it". I just want fast, secure, private computing.
Same, I'm largely being facetious. But viruses come with success, and success also means more software and hardware compatibility. I think that's worth a periodic scan every so often and some slightly inconvenient security systems in place.
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For me the trouble has always been interactions with other people. It's way better than 10 years ago. Just LibreOffices ribbon interface looks so much better today than 5 years ago. File compatibility is just going to be a continued growing pain until LibreOffice hits a major marketshare
ODF master race?
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There already are. I barely missed a linux virus from a hijacked python package what... two years ago?
Linux desktops are quite non-homogenous though, so their vectors/nature is kinda different.
Sure, and they have been for decades. They're still not that common though.
What Python package almost got you?
I wonder if I've been hit but just haven't noticed because I tend to run things in containers.
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LibreOffice is a great alternative for 99% of people, but there is that 1% of people who is gonna be disappointment.
This is a great step though.I just switched to Linux and got a new win11 laptop for my wife.
Had to install a old HP Laser MFC (going to switch to brother when I run out of toner).
It just worked on Linux mint. Auto installed. Printing and scanning.
On win10 worked automatically. Printing and scanning.
On Win 11 it installed with a generic driver and printed fine but not scanning. Had to get the win10 driver from the site... WTH. -
they will save 188,000 € on Microsoft license fees per year
That is such a crazy amount of money on license fees, especially when you consider that there are mostly free alternatives. I am always choosing foss options as I build my small business.
Right now, I am using onedrive, and Microsoft for my business email. Which I think comes out to like $5 a month.
My understanding is that for reliable email, you need to host with microsoft or google otherwise you are more likely to get sorted into junk mail. If that is incorrect, please let me know.
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Sure, and they have been for decades. They're still not that common though.
What Python package almost got you?
I wonder if I've been hit but just haven't noticed because I tend to run things in containers.
Pytorch Nightly:
https://pytorch.org/blog/compromised-nightly-dependency/
PyTorch dependency poisoned with malicious code
System data was exfiltrated during attack, but an anonymous person says it was a research project gone wrong
(www.theregister.com)
Funnily enough I can't even post what it does without the Lemmy comment filter zapping me, but it tried to scrape accounts and passwords.
The malicious binary would upload files ranging in size up to 99,999 bytes and send the contents to a specified domain.
Was pretty scary from my perspective. I missed it by a week. PyPi is a mess, and it makes me wonder how much isn't caught.
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Pytorch Nightly:
https://pytorch.org/blog/compromised-nightly-dependency/
PyTorch dependency poisoned with malicious code
System data was exfiltrated during attack, but an anonymous person says it was a research project gone wrong
(www.theregister.com)
Funnily enough I can't even post what it does without the Lemmy comment filter zapping me, but it tried to scrape accounts and passwords.
The malicious binary would upload files ranging in size up to 99,999 bytes and send the contents to a specified domain.
Was pretty scary from my perspective. I missed it by a week. PyPi is a mess, and it makes me wonder how much isn't caught.
That is scary. But it does require using a custom repository, so hopefully few were hit.
We use poetry, enough which allows specifying additional package repos and it looks like we'd be susceptible to the same attack, but for our internal package index. Looks like I have something to fix this week, thanks for the link!
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Windows + office + account and identity management all come with Ms 365 business in the first tier past family. For about $15 or $16 a month you can use InTune to set up logins and select enrollment with MFA as well a provision computers and management with InTune including Boyd self enrollment for laptops, Android, and Apple. All your files get rbac, backup, and recovery from day 1. You can, and I would recommend strongly against this, even manage your osx devices from InTune.
It's very slick and there is a reason business use it. This thread is somewhat delusional on how easy it is to manage and how terrible office 365 is.
UntilI can log a user on and have all their stuff automatically sync or download on Linux. Microsoft can have office computers. But please, please let Linux take over gaming.
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they will save 188,000 € on Microsoft license fees per year
There in that place where closed systems are frowned upon, Install Linux, Problem Solved.
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That is such a crazy amount of money on license fees, especially when you consider that there are mostly free alternatives. I am always choosing foss options as I build my small business.
Right now, I am using onedrive, and Microsoft for my business email. Which I think comes out to like $5 a month.
My understanding is that for reliable email, you need to host with microsoft or google otherwise you are more likely to get sorted into junk mail. If that is incorrect, please let me know.
My understanding is that for reliable email, you need to host with microsoft or google otherwise you are more likely to get sorted into junk mail.
That's technically accurate, but it depends on the context. For example, if you set up DMARC properly and use a brand new custom domain as a personal email, yeah, you're much more likely to get sent to spam, but not necessarily right away, and as you use that more frequently, or communicate with people using the larger providers like Google or Microsoft, the higher the "reputation" of your domain will get.
If you want the highest possible level of reliability though, then yeah, Google or Microsoft's options are likely gonna give you the highest chance right off the bat without any fuss.
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they will save 188,000 € on Microsoft license fees per year
An interesting fact about Europe is they've long disobeyed their own procurement laws to choose Microsoft software, whether its corruption or what I've got no idea, I assume so though.
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My understanding is that for reliable email, you need to host with microsoft or google otherwise you are more likely to get sorted into junk mail.
That's technically accurate, but it depends on the context. For example, if you set up DMARC properly and use a brand new custom domain as a personal email, yeah, you're much more likely to get sent to spam, but not necessarily right away, and as you use that more frequently, or communicate with people using the larger providers like Google or Microsoft, the higher the "reputation" of your domain will get.
If you want the highest possible level of reliability though, then yeah, Google or Microsoft's options are likely gonna give you the highest chance right off the bat without any fuss.
Kinda lame, but at the same time I get it.
So, I guess I’m sticking with OneDrive and Microsoft email.
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they will save 188,000 € on Microsoft license fees per year
I sometimes wonder what if everyone who spends money on licensing fees instead takes the same amount of money and puts it into FOSS. Imagine what we could achieve? Likely the money would be used more efficiently because they could donate it to non-profit companies which don't need to pay tax.
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Sadly I took my claim from observation of the real world. And I wasn't even talking about machine learning systems yet. Some teenagers and young adults nowadays are already walking zombies hooked to tiktok.
I am a walking zombie hooked to Lemmy!
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I think this has been tried before.
Yup. And MS had to bribe the city of Munich with moving their German HQ there to make them switch back.
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I just switched to Linux and got a new win11 laptop for my wife.
Had to install a old HP Laser MFC (going to switch to brother when I run out of toner).
It just worked on Linux mint. Auto installed. Printing and scanning.
On win10 worked automatically. Printing and scanning.
On Win 11 it installed with a generic driver and printed fine but not scanning. Had to get the win10 driver from the site... WTH.My Brother printer worked way better on W11 then W10, but I disliked W10 more than I dislike W11 at least at the start
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they will save 188,000 € on Microsoft license fees per year
Unfortunately nextcloud sucks
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