Former GM Executive: BYD cars are good in terms of design, features, price, quality. If we let BYD into the U.S. market, it could end up destroying american manufacturers
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Also labor price is unmatched. Nobody would work for the wage they give to children in China, so you can't really go that much cheaper while not sacrificing safety.
Not saying Chinese cars are that well made.
Like we don't have child labor here in the good ol' USA.
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I want Ford Escorts, Geo Metros, VW Rabbits. I want a small, uncomplicated, economy shitbox. A small cheap car that my broke ass can fix when it breaks. And no car company that makes cars in this country makes that anymore.
Right? The only thing on the market for EVs in the US right now is "luxury" crossovers and trucks. What people really want is an electric civic hatchback.
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LOL what workers rights do you clowns in the US have?
Not an American, but it's worth saying that despite their labour market's galling shortfalls, they don't have a culture of 12 hour days for 6 days per week. Many work much less, and those who do pull those kinds of hours are typically tradesmen/women who make pretty good bank. Those types of jobs are being systematically eliminated by corporations, but I digress.
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LOL losers, your education is shit compared to Chinese.
You've got nothing to offer to the world.Hold on, in advanced education here in my area of the states, almost half the population of students in classes I see are of Chinese or Indian backgrounds and most are here on foreign visas.
If the education is so shit, why are there so many foreign students studying here and paying insane amounts of money to do so.
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Well, this is where specific targetted protectionist policies can work, provided they are used just to buy time to catch up, deploy industrial policy, subsidies, to differentiate and for RnD and not just to bury your head in the sand and keep making expensive shit products.
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Good? Also is the american car sector not already dead from the us becoming a tariff issueing pariah state?
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I don't give two cents for the american auto brands but spare me the drama: try and make a proper car.
Looking at Ford: try importing a few models from the european line and offer it in the states. Small, economic, somewhat reliable, fuel efficient cars.
Stellantis has a slew of models that could be brought into the american market. They make good cars.
And I'm willing to bet GM as a few models they build and market overseas that would be guaranteed sucesses.
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Sure, but the US has a lot of well-educated people (e.g. see the Education Index), as well as a lot of opportunities for well-educated people to get in-demand jobs that pay well.
Literacy rates are interesting, but they don't translate to well-paying jobs like education attainment rates.
Sure, but the US has a lot of well-educated people (e.g. see the Education Index), as well as a lot of opportunities for well-educated people to get in-demand jobs that pay well.
There are more Indian Engineers in the USA than American ones... and Trump is destroying all of it
The way things are going for you, nobody with a half a choice would decide to migrate to the USA for work
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Also labor price is unmatched. Nobody would work for the wage they give to children in China, so you can't really go that much cheaper while not sacrificing safety.
Not saying Chinese cars are that well made.
They're being pretty ruthless about grabbing all the world's resources to make them as well.
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Sure, but the US has a lot of well-educated people (e.g. see the Education Index), as well as a lot of opportunities for well-educated people to get in-demand jobs that pay well.
There are more Indian Engineers in the USA than American ones... and Trump is destroying all of it
The way things are going for you, nobody with a half a choice would decide to migrate to the USA for work
Right, and that's completely brain-dead. We should be wanting to attract more talent, because more people able to take high-end jobs usually ends up creating more high-end jobs. We want more immigrant engineers, doctors, etc, because that encourages greater investment since the labor pool is deeper.
But no, we'll instead block cheap imports and encourage more blue-collar work, and if we take that too far, we'll end up in a similar situation as we did back in the Great Depression when demand just evaporates.
We should let developing countries develop and focus on what developed countries are better at: innovation. Attract top talent and keep investment dollars flowing so the R&D jobs stay.
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Meanwhile, instead of trying to compete they cripple all EV advancement to make a quick buck on fossil fuel.
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Also labor price is unmatched. Nobody would work for the wage they give to children in China, so you can't really go that much cheaper while not sacrificing safety.
Not saying Chinese cars are that well made.
China has compulsory education for children just like America. There's no child labor in China.
They pay adult workers less in China, but these yuan has 7x buying power than the dollar in China
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They're being pretty ruthless about grabbing all the world's resources to make them as well.
No the rest of the world has been sleeping when China silently bought all the mines and harbors in the past decades.
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Also labor price is unmatched. Nobody would work for the wage they give to children in China, so you can't really go that much cheaper while not sacrificing safety.
Not saying Chinese cars are that well made.
Very few children work in china right now, Chinese workers even have 5 days of vacation a year by law.
That's 5 more than the US....
There were probably more children working on farms in the US than in china, and I remember something about Florida wanting to reinstate child labour again?
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Hold on, in advanced education here in my area of the states, almost half the population of students in classes I see are of Chinese or Indian backgrounds and most are here on foreign visas.
If the education is so shit, why are there so many foreign students studying here and paying insane amounts of money to do so.
I'd think enrollment rates would be a severe lagging indicator of education quality. Institutions could likely coast on reputation for quite some time after education quality tanks. Inertia is powerful, and some could even knowingly decide to go to poor educational institutions just for the status it still gives among peers and in their community.
That said, I have no first hand experience with US higher education, and wouldn't know what the quality really is, just saying that enrollment rates probably aren't a great indicator of it.
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Lmao, Chinese shills are actual news now? Fucking low as it gets.
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I don't give two cents for the american auto brands but spare me the drama: try and make a proper car.
Looking at Ford: try importing a few models from the european line and offer it in the states. Small, economic, somewhat reliable, fuel efficient cars.
Stellantis has a slew of models that could be brought into the american market. They make good cars.
And I'm willing to bet GM as a few models they build and market overseas that would be guaranteed sucesses.
Uh, to be clear, I don't think Michael Dunne is advocating against China in this context. He worked in the Chinese auto sector for decades. He isn't an alarmist, he's their salesman.
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So free markets are a terrible idea now and countries practicing import substitution weren't impoverishing their people.
US hypocrisy at it's finest.
Free markets were always a terrible idea, the USA economic system was basically founded on principles of regulation of goods like tea, tobacco, and alcohol.
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They have never considered actually competing have they?
Michael Dunne has been competing the entire time, for the Chinese. His statements here aren't fear, they're shillery.
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Big corporations know very well how competition works and would like to avoid it at all costs.
Former big corporation*
Who also worked primarily in Chinese Automotive industry*
