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    Yes.........prison

    An extremely short life sentence

  • Good, let everything go wrong in America, they might eventually wake up and realise what a clusterfuck they've allowed themselves to become and actually do something about it.

    Accelerationism like that never works. When it all settles, you get extremely mild improvements for a whole lot of hurt.

  • Accelerationism like that never works. When it all settles, you get extremely mild improvements for a whole lot of hurt.

    What do you propose then, I'm asking in good faith. It's fairly obvious to anyone with common sense that Trump, the GOP and the entire MAGA movement and their ilk need to be removed from power. How can people fight the government that is back by billionaires who control your entire lives?

  • What do you propose then, I'm asking in good faith. It's fairly obvious to anyone with common sense that Trump, the GOP and the entire MAGA movement and their ilk need to be removed from power. How can people fight the government that is back by billionaires who control your entire lives?

    Protests must be more sustained instead of the bursts of activity we've seen. Even direct action will fail if it's not combined with large scale protest methods. Unfortunately, people get worn down doing constant protesting.

    Trump won't be around in another 10 years one way or another. It's rare to find cults of personality that outlive their leader. But if we use Nazi Germany as an example of what happens next, it's basically a return to liberalism. Half the country went to that almost immediately, and the other half just took longer. Granted, Germany has a better social safety net than America does now, but it's hardly anti-capitalist.

    TBH, I don't have a good answer. I'm mostly doing the anarchist thing of using social groups to get people to rely less on capitalism and more on each other. That's more of a long term thing, though.

  • Protests must be more sustained instead of the bursts of activity we've seen. Even direct action will fail if it's not combined with large scale protest methods. Unfortunately, people get worn down doing constant protesting.

    Trump won't be around in another 10 years one way or another. It's rare to find cults of personality that outlive their leader. But if we use Nazi Germany as an example of what happens next, it's basically a return to liberalism. Half the country went to that almost immediately, and the other half just took longer. Granted, Germany has a better social safety net than America does now, but it's hardly anti-capitalist.

    TBH, I don't have a good answer. I'm mostly doing the anarchist thing of using social groups to get people to rely less on capitalism and more on each other. That's more of a long term thing, though.

    I appreciate the honest reply, I agree with most things, I think large scale protests must include a general strike. This administration is all about the bottom line, and a sustained general strike will hit them hard.
    I'm well aware of the argument of people living paycheck to paycheck seemingly unable to do that, however the alternative is very bleak.
    I wish you luck and keep it up

  • Protests must be more sustained instead of the bursts of activity we've seen. Even direct action will fail if it's not combined with large scale protest methods. Unfortunately, people get worn down doing constant protesting.

    Trump won't be around in another 10 years one way or another. It's rare to find cults of personality that outlive their leader. But if we use Nazi Germany as an example of what happens next, it's basically a return to liberalism. Half the country went to that almost immediately, and the other half just took longer. Granted, Germany has a better social safety net than America does now, but it's hardly anti-capitalist.

    TBH, I don't have a good answer. I'm mostly doing the anarchist thing of using social groups to get people to rely less on capitalism and more on each other. That's more of a long term thing, though.

    Yeah, more protests that aren't just like once a month. But I don't know how to organize that, and most of the platforms that people communicate on are owned by the worst people.

  • I appreciate the honest reply, I agree with most things, I think large scale protests must include a general strike. This administration is all about the bottom line, and a sustained general strike will hit them hard.
    I'm well aware of the argument of people living paycheck to paycheck seemingly unable to do that, however the alternative is very bleak.
    I wish you luck and keep it up

    Just to address the idea of a general strike, you pretty much have to get sustained protests going first. More specifically, they have to encourage people from different backgrounds to work together outside of capitalist structures.

    I forget the exact example, but I think it was the 1934 San Fransisco general strike. Whole city shut down, including restaurants. One problem was that there were a lot of young men who worked in the factories and lived in small apartments with no kitchens at all. They went to the general strike committee and made it known that they rely on the restaurants for their daily meals. The committee understood and had some restaurants approved for opening along with delivery trucks so they could operate. Problem solved.

    Point is that you need organization around that sort of thing where even marginal groups can have their problems heard. Without getting people into organized groups, it's going to fail. If nobody listened to those young men and did something, then they would have had the choice of starving or crossing the picket line.

  • Just to address the idea of a general strike, you pretty much have to get sustained protests going first. More specifically, they have to encourage people from different backgrounds to work together outside of capitalist structures.

    I forget the exact example, but I think it was the 1934 San Fransisco general strike. Whole city shut down, including restaurants. One problem was that there were a lot of young men who worked in the factories and lived in small apartments with no kitchens at all. They went to the general strike committee and made it known that they rely on the restaurants for their daily meals. The committee understood and had some restaurants approved for opening along with delivery trucks so they could operate. Problem solved.

    Point is that you need organization around that sort of thing where even marginal groups can have their problems heard. Without getting people into organized groups, it's going to fail. If nobody listened to those young men and did something, then they would have had the choice of starving or crossing the picket line.

    Those are all excellent and valid points, do you think normal thinking Americans will manage that, sustained protests followed by strike action. I completely understand the point made about the young men, the elderly and most vulnerable groups will need support. Right now all I see is some protests in some states but nothing indicates this will evolve.

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    DOGE employees should be executed by firing squad. In fact, we should bring back a whole bunch of capital punishments- hanging, beheading, drawing and quartering, burning at the stake; unless you meet the fascists at their level you’ll never scare them enough to keep their political views private. Like what happened to Mussolini was TOO GOOD for every single person involved in the executive branch right now.

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    I’ve said for a while that the SSA should do basically this exact thing. In a more controlled manner, but still the same result. Announce something like “in two years, we’ll make our database public. Every single name, DOB, and SSN will be publicly searchable.

    It sounds radical, but SSNs were never meant to be a secure form of ID. Old cards even said something like “do not use this as ID” on them. But organizations quickly latched onto it because they wanted to have a way to identify individuals with the same name and DOB. And SSNs were convenient because people already had them.

    It would force organizations to develop their own way to ID people. It would be a huge step towards making an actual secure form of ID. And the warning time would give people enough time to design the new system and roll it out, while still giving a hard deadline for when it needs to be done.

  • Those are all excellent and valid points, do you think normal thinking Americans will manage that, sustained protests followed by strike action. I completely understand the point made about the young men, the elderly and most vulnerable groups will need support. Right now all I see is some protests in some states but nothing indicates this will evolve.

    Honestly, no. US infrastructure for this stuff is scaffolding, at best.

  • Honestly, no. US infrastructure for this stuff is scaffolding, at best.

    It's looking very bad eh...

  • OP, please revise your title to match the article, it is currently misinformation.

    The complaint is about where the oversight comes from. This is not some random cloud server.

    “S.S.A. stores all personal data in secure environments that have robust safeguards in place to protect vital information,” he said. “The data referenced in the complaint is stored in a longstanding environment used by S.S.A. and walled off from the internet. High-level career S.S.A. officials have administrative access to this system with oversight by S.S.A.’s information security team.”

    I agree that "random server" is a bad choice of words, but do want to add additional information context as the concern isn't necessarily unwarranted. Another qoute from the article:

    “I have determined the business need is higher than the security risk associated with this implementation and I accept all risks,” wrote Aram Moghaddassi, who worked at two of Mr. Musk’s companies, X and Neuralink, before becoming Social Security’s chief information officer, in a July 15 memo.

    Its also sounds like they did spin up a new database with limited security/oversight to "move" faster. Why that's worrisome is they aren't denying there is a risk or lack of security, they are just saying it's justified.

  • Zero details or sources other than one disgruntled employee, yeh I’m not buying this at all. They probably count azure or AWS as a “random cloud server”.

    Really scraping the bottom of the barrel for anti-doge/elon content these days.

    If you read the article, the current head of the SSA acknowledges they did set up the system being discussed and that he's accepted the increased risk of the implementation as there is a "business need".

  • DOGE employees should be executed by firing squad. In fact, we should bring back a whole bunch of capital punishments- hanging, beheading, drawing and quartering, burning at the stake; unless you meet the fascists at their level you’ll never scare them enough to keep their political views private. Like what happened to Mussolini was TOO GOOD for every single person involved in the executive branch right now.

    Do this to everyone Trump hired or part of his cohort including him. They are all evil gangster criminals.

  • I’ve said for a while that the SSA should do basically this exact thing. In a more controlled manner, but still the same result. Announce something like “in two years, we’ll make our database public. Every single name, DOB, and SSN will be publicly searchable.

    It sounds radical, but SSNs were never meant to be a secure form of ID. Old cards even said something like “do not use this as ID” on them. But organizations quickly latched onto it because they wanted to have a way to identify individuals with the same name and DOB. And SSNs were convenient because people already had them.

    It would force organizations to develop their own way to ID people. It would be a huge step towards making an actual secure form of ID. And the warning time would give people enough time to design the new system and roll it out, while still giving a hard deadline for when it needs to be done.

    Exactly who I trust to create a logically organized database of all peoples within the United States. The current administration..

  • Do this to everyone Trump hired or part of his cohort including him. They are all evil gangster criminals.

    Drain the swamp by filling the capital buildings Miyazaki style.

  • I’ve said for a while that the SSA should do basically this exact thing. In a more controlled manner, but still the same result. Announce something like “in two years, we’ll make our database public. Every single name, DOB, and SSN will be publicly searchable.

    It sounds radical, but SSNs were never meant to be a secure form of ID. Old cards even said something like “do not use this as ID” on them. But organizations quickly latched onto it because they wanted to have a way to identify individuals with the same name and DOB. And SSNs were convenient because people already had them.

    It would force organizations to develop their own way to ID people. It would be a huge step towards making an actual secure form of ID. And the warning time would give people enough time to design the new system and roll it out, while still giving a hard deadline for when it needs to be done.

    I dont have a problem with that, but what I will object to is the current regime making the replament ID system. 1) there is no way they would design it well or securely, smart people capable of building such a system are usually the first to bounce to another country as they will have the means to do so. 2) it would be too easy for them to lord the new ID over peoples heads (like they are with immigration status now) and impliment a social credit score like China does.

    Your correct that SSNs should not be used as IDs, but getting the government to build a modern system for that opens too many avanues for abuse (especially with darth cheeto in charge).

  • Exactly who I trust to create a logically organized database of all peoples within the United States. The current administration..

    I don't love the idea of the Trump administration being in charge of creating a national ID system, but this maybe the best time to make one.

    If Democrats proposed a national ID database the crazy 'FEMA is coming to round us up' republicans would freak out about it. As proven with Trump sending the national guard into D.C., as long as Trump does it they don't care.

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    so who are they pleasing? Companies. Germany tends to only care about German companies, to the point where they'll save them with taxpayer money every time their shares drop .2%
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    In April, Nigeria asked Google, Microsoft, and Amazon to set concrete deadlines for opening data centers in the country. Nigeria has been making this demand for about four years, but the companies have so far failed to fulfill their promises. Now, Nigeria has set up a working group with the companies to ensure that data is stored within its shores. Just onshoring the data center does not solve the problems. You can't be sure no data travels to the US servers, some data does need to travel to the US servers, and the entire DC is still subject to US software and certificate keychains. It's better, but not good or safe. I need to channel my inner Mike Ehrmantrout to the US tech companies and government: you had a good thing going you stupid son of a bitch. You had everything you needed and it all ran like clockwork. You could have shut your mouth, cooked, and made as much money as you needed, but you just had to blow it up, you and your pride and your ego. Seriously, this is a massive own goal by the US government. This is a massive loss to US hegemony and influence around the world that's never coming back. It has never been easier to build sovereign clouds with off the shelf and open source tooling. The best practices are largely documented, software is commoditized, and there are plenty of qualified people out there these days and governments staring down the barrel of existential risk have finally got the incentive to fund these efforts.
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    I am glad it hasn’t been hard for you. Pretty much everybody I know has moved to other states because of how bad the jobs are here. I would if I could afford it.
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    Which group? Israel government or US government?
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    No, there's no way to automatically make something become law. A successful petition just forces the European Commission to discuss it and potentially propose legislation. Even though it's not forcing anything to happen, there is an incentive for the commission to seriously consider it as there is probably a political cost to officially denying a motion that has proven that it concerns a large amount of people.
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    The amount of effort vs a handful of toddlers, and people looking bored until they start just laughing. I’d be so embarrassed if I was one of the robots.
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    (Premise - suppose I accept that there is such a definable thing as capitalism) I'm not sure why you feel the need to state this in a discussion that already assumes it as a necessary precondition of, but, uh, you do you. People blaming capitalism for everything then build a country that imports grain, while before them and after them it’s among the largest exporters on the planet (if we combine Russia and Ukraine for the “after” metric, no pun intended). ...what? What does this have to do with literally anything, much less my comment about innovation/competition? Even setting aside the wild-assed assumptions you're making about me criticizing capitalism means I 'blame [it] for everything', this tirade you've launched into, presumably about Ukraine and the USSR, has no bearing on anything even tangentially related to this conversation. People praising capitalism create conditions in which there’s no reason to praise it. Like, it’s competitive - they kill competitiveness with patents, IP, very complex legal systems. It’s self-regulating and self-optimizing - they make regulations and do bailouts preventing sick companies from dying, make laws after their interests, then reactively make regulations to make conditions with them existing bearable, which have a side effect of killing smaller companies. Please allow me to reiterate: ...what? Capitalists didn't build literally any of those things, governments did, and capitalists have been trying to escape, subvert, or dismantle those systems at every turn, so this... vain, confusing attempt to pin a medal on capitalism's chest for restraining itself is not only wrong, it fails to understand basic facts about history. It's the opposite of self-regulating because it actively seeks to dismantle regulations (environmental, labor, wage, etc), and the only thing it optimizes for is the wealth of oligarchs, and maybe if they're lucky, there will be a few crumbs left over for their simps. That’s the problem, both “socialist” and “capitalist” ideal systems ignore ape power dynamics. I'm going to go ahead an assume that 'the problem' has more to do with assuming that complex interacting systems can be simplified to 'ape (or any other animal's) power dynamics' than with failing to let the richest people just do whatever they want. Such systems should be designed on top of the fact that jungle law is always allowed So we should just be cool with everybody being poor so Jeff Bezos or whoever can upgrade his megayacht to a gigayacht or whatever? Let me say this in the politest way I know how: LOL no. Also, do you remember when I said this? ‘Won’t someone please think of the billionaires’ is wearing kinda thin You know, right before you went on this very long-winded, surreal, barely-coherent ramble? Did you imagine I would be convinced by literally any of it when all it amounts to is one giant, extraneous, tedious equivalent of 'Won't someone please think of the billionaires?' Simp harder and I bet maybe you can get a crumb or two yourself.