No JS, No CSS, No HTML: online "clubs" celebrate plainer websites
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phpBBB??
No, it's my own that I'm building from Scratch. It's C#/Asp.Net Razor Pages. Plain CSS on the frontend, no javascript
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I remember the wonderful feeling when Discord had a redesign in like 2017 or 2018 where they undid that awful gray-on-white design trend and made the text actually have contrast. These days the annoying trendy design thing is articles/blogs with extremely narrow width.
no i do not want to read paragraphs that are this wide. this is making it way more annoying to read. please stop doing this.at least Firefox has Reader Mode.
I'm annoyed by that too, and I think the reason is so they can cram more ads in it. I had to turn of my adblock for a second and forgot to turn it back on while going to a news site and I swear to God 2/3rd of the page was ads. Turned it back on and those spaces were empty making only 1/3rd of the page used. Still way better tho I'm never turning it off again.
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I rather have these people embrace gopher
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The dependency hell of JS is caused by React. It's an ironic turn because node gained popularity in part because it was one of the first to have a coupled package manager with a massive public contribution model, full of a billion packages that follow the unix philosophy of "everything should do only one thing, and do it well" Dependency hell would disappear if people stopped popularizing competing swiss army knives. It's made worse by people trying to mash these swiss army knives together just to improve portfolio.
We've gotten to the point where you aren't considered a real professional unless you start even the smallest projects with maximum technical debt.
It should never be impressive that you used a tool. If the tool made programming it easier then it's not a mental feat. If the tool made programming it harder, then people should think you are kind of slow for using a tool that made development harder. This is why brag culture over what tools are used makes no sense. Just use tools that make life easier. If it doesn't make life easier, stop using it.
That’s fair, actually: my project had 2 packages in my
node_modules(not mypackage.json, total dependencies!) in vanilla JS, now it has well over 100. Unreal. -
I'm annoyed by that too, and I think the reason is so they can cram more ads in it. I had to turn of my adblock for a second and forgot to turn it back on while going to a news site and I swear to God 2/3rd of the page was ads. Turned it back on and those spaces were empty making only 1/3rd of the page used. Still way better tho I'm never turning it off again.
No kidding on the ads. I shared this experience not long ago.
Browsers are complicit in browser fingerprinting. - Lemmy
Everyone talks about how evil browser fingerprinting is, and it is, but I don’t get why people are only blaming the companies doing it and not putting equal blame on browsers for letting it happen. Go to Am I Unique [https://amiunique.org/] and look at the kind of data browsers let JavaScript access unconditionally with no user prompting. Here’s a selection of ridiculous ones that pretty much no website needs: * Your operating system (Isn’t the whole damn point of the internet that it’s platform independent?) * Your CPU architecture (JS runs on the most virtual of virtual environments why the hell does it need to know what processor you have?) * Your JS interpreter’s version and build ID * List of plugins you have installed * List of extensions you have installed * Your accelerometer and gyroscope (so any website can figure out what you’re doing by analyzing how you move your phone, i.e. running vs walking vs driving vs standing still) * Your magnetic field sensor AKA the phone’s compass (so websites can figure out which direction you’re facing) * Your proximity sensor * Your keyboard layout * How your mouse moves every moment it’s in the webpage window, including how far you scroll, what bit of text you hovered on or selected, both left and right clicks, etc. * Everything you type on your keyboard when the window is active. You don’t need to be typing into a text box or anything, you can set a general event listener for keystrokes like you can for the mouse. If you’re wondering how sensors are used to fingerprint you, I think it has to do with manufacturing imperfections that skew their readings in unique ways for each device, but websites could just as easily straight up record those sensors without you knowing. It’s not a lot of data all things considered so you likely wouldn’t notice. Also, canvas and webGL rendering differences are each more than enough to 100% identify your browser instance. Not a bit of effort put into making their results more consistent I guess. All of these are accessible to any website by default. Actually, there’s not even a way to turn most of these off. WHY?! All of these are niche features that only a tiny fraction of websites need. Browser companies know that fingerprinting is a problem and have done nothing about it. Not even Firefox. Why is the web, where you’re by far the most likely to execute malicious code, not built on zero trust policies? Let me allow the functionality I need on a per site basis. Fuck everything about modern websites.
(lemmy.ml)
And the tragic thing is there was another news site that I did the same thing with afterwards, and it was literally 2.5x worse than what I documented with The Nation.
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The revived No JS Club celebrates websites that don't use Javascript, the powerful but sometimes overused code that's been bloating the web and crashing tabs since 1995. The No CSS Club goes a step further and forbids even a scrap of styling beyond the browser defaults. And there is even the No HTML Club, where you're not even allowed to use HTML. Plain text websites!
The modern web is the pure incarnation of evil. When Satan has a 1v1 with his manager, he confers with the modern web. If Satan is Sauron, then the modern web is Melkor [1]. Every horror that you can imagine is because of the modern web. Modern web is not an existential risk (X-risk), but is an astronomic suffering risk (S-risk) [2]. It is the duty of each and every man, woman, and child to revolt against it. If you're not working on returning civilization to ooga-booga, you're a bad person.
A compromise with the clubs is called for. A hypertext brutalism that uses the raw materials of the web to functional, honest ends while allowing web technologies to support clarity, legibility and accessibility. Compare this notion to the web brutalism of recent times, which started off in similar vein but soon became a self-subverting aesthetic: sites using 2.4MB frameworks to add text-shadow: 40px 40px 0px hotpink to 400kb Helvetica webfonts that were already on your computer.
I also like the idea of implementing "hypotext" as an inversion of hypertext. This would somehow avoid the failure modes of extending the structure of text by failing in other ways that are more fun. But I'm in two minds about whether that would be just a toy (e.g. references banished to metadata, i.e. footnotes are the hypertext) or something more conceptual that uses references to collapse the structure of text rather than extend it (e.g. links are includes and going near them spaghettifies your brain). The term is already in use in a structuralist sense, which is to say there are 2 million words of French I have to read first if I want to get away with any of this.
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Boing Boing Original Article.I fucking hate JavaScript
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Looks like the geocities websites of my youth.
If you liked Geocities, you'll probably like Neocities
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Nah it's fine. Just got brutally dumped so I was too sensitive
but still, thanks for apologizing
Love ya 2
Aw, dang. That's not fun. It doesn't help now, but time will heal. Take care, friend.
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I recently made www.timedial.org, using mainly HTML 3.2. I tried HTML 2.0, but the lack of tables, fonts and even text alignment was a bit too much.
Sorry, but it looks awful
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Those websites are amazing, thank you.
I checked the source to find the song only to realized I already had it in my playlist
