Polish Train Maker Is Suing the Hackers Who Exposed Its Anti-Repair Tricks
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Polish Train Maker Is Suing the Hackers Who Exposed Its Anti-Repair Tricks
Newag, maker of Polish trains, is suing ethical hackers who exposed its anti-repair software, threatening independent repair and consumer rights.
iFixit (www.ifixit.com)
When corporation does crime and has the balls to sue the victims
EU companies are learning well from the US!
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Every potential buyer of trains should ban this company from new sales.
Yeah. I’m not buying another train from them ever again
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fraud
Sabotage. Property made unusable. Passengers were literally stranded in the middle of a journey.
Yeah, this has a criminal component of endangering train traffic and putting hundreds of lives at risk.
This is not merely fraud or property damage. This should be seen in the context of attempted homicide.
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It's worse. They are saying that the EU copyright law, as written, only allows decompiling/reverse engineering to "fix bugs". A bug fix would involve a software patch of some sorts. But the security researchers did not have time to write a patch yet, what they did is tell the customer "Yep, it's fucked. Your vendor put in a killswitch to make the trains brick themselves." So that does tell them where the problem is, but it is not a bona fide bug fix from the Bugfix region of France, and therefore illegal.
Ah so it's just sparkling engineering
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I was just thinking this. I imagine that there is only a few hundred train operators in the world, so they can all be reached easily, and would pay attention to the Polish rail operator.
Simply explain the whole ordeal and bullshittery, and let them know what will happen to them.
It's unlikely that Newag would get another sale. They are fucking with mainly state operator, who have a LOT of time and resources.
If I were the Polish operator, I would have found a new hobby.
Operator in my country luckily ordered a bunch of Škodas to complement and replace the old Stadlers, so I don't think we're gonna be using Newag any time soon.
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Yeah. I’m not buying another train from them ever again
Same here. Fucking train makers.
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Yeah. I’m not buying another train from them ever again
Good for you! I'm going to boycott them, too.
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Polish Train Maker Is Suing the Hackers Who Exposed Its Anti-Repair Tricks
Newag, maker of Polish trains, is suing ethical hackers who exposed its anti-repair software, threatening independent repair and consumer rights.
iFixit (www.ifixit.com)
After a bit of digging it looks like Newag has had a steady supply of government contracts:
25.01.2023 - 10,7 billion PLN (2,5bn EUR) for EMUs
24.07.2024 - Newag CEO mentions current contracts with PKP Intercity total 9bn PLN (2bn EUR)
21.11.2024 - 7,7bn PLN (1,8bn EUR) for hybrid MUs
23.06.2025 - most recent one I could find, 270 million PLN, EMUs for a local railway
Stock is up 260% since June 2022
In Poland we don't negotiate with corporate terrorists, we throw money at them.
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So if they just say they were gonna get to the bug fixing part but haven't yet they're in the clear. Boom, another decisive victory for the Dragon Sector.
Train company response: it's a feature, not a bug, so you're still guilty
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Polish Train Maker Is Suing the Hackers Who Exposed Its Anti-Repair Tricks
Newag, maker of Polish trains, is suing ethical hackers who exposed its anti-repair software, threatening independent repair and consumer rights.
iFixit (www.ifixit.com)
Capitalism is a scourge.
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Capitalism is a scourge.
Quote of this century.
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fraud
Sabotage. Property made unusable. Passengers were literally stranded in the middle of a journey.
The story I read the trains were bricked in the maintenance yards. Do you have the source about passangers?
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The story I read the trains were bricked in the maintenance yards. Do you have the source about passangers?
This very article.
And one batch of the 45WE EMU (electric multiple unit, the kind of train that doesn’t have a separate engine up front to pull the passenger cars), would switch off automatically when passing through the Mińsk Mazowiecki railway station. Trains full of passengers were left stranded.
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Polish Train Maker Is Suing the Hackers Who Exposed Its Anti-Repair Tricks
Newag, maker of Polish trains, is suing ethical hackers who exposed its anti-repair software, threatening independent repair and consumer rights.
iFixit (www.ifixit.com)
I will sue you because you broke my ransomware.
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This very article.
And one batch of the 45WE EMU (electric multiple unit, the kind of train that doesn’t have a separate engine up front to pull the passenger cars), would switch off automatically when passing through the Mińsk Mazowiecki railway station. Trains full of passengers were left stranded.
Thanks! (I hope you didn't expect me to read the article, I'm too cool for that!)
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Thanks! (I hope you didn't expect me to read the article, I'm too cool for that!)
Oh, certainly not.
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I will sue you because you broke my ransomware.
It's the general modus of today, exposing corruption is illegal and extremism, fixing intentional sabotage is illegal and against IP law, catching pedophiles is illegal and a stalking attack on respected people like Sourgay Brin and Mark Suckerberg. Bypassing censorship is illegal and making tools for criminals. Bypassing propaganda is illegal and inciting to violence. Laughing at unsubstantiated demands is illegal and a challenge to elected or other authority.
It's slowly drifting to the point where "illegal" is trying to make sense in what's allowed and what's not, and "legal" is having approval from power.
A mafia world.
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Capitalism is a scourge.
You are literally looking at a company trying to prevent competition by doing crime, being caught and trying to use law against those who caught it.
Capitalism is that thing where competition is considered a virtue in the first place.
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Polish Train Maker Is Suing the Hackers Who Exposed Its Anti-Repair Tricks
Newag, maker of Polish trains, is suing ethical hackers who exposed its anti-repair software, threatening independent repair and consumer rights.
iFixit (www.ifixit.com)
I couldn't tell better.
"The sheep are made to be sheared". Each day, critical thinking fades a little more, leading people into a spiral of submission that has never been as swift and humiliating. -
I keep a small list titled "illegal heroes", and these hackers are on that list. It's bullshit that they're being hounded like this.
They are not illegal heroes, they are pentesters and were paid by train company SPS who were using these trains.
Breaking "DRM" in Polish trains
We've all been there: the trains you're servicing for a customer suddenly brick themselves and the manufacturer claims that's because you...
(media.ccc.de)
They had a talk at CCC 2 years ago, and last one too I think. It's pretty funny.
