PNG has been updated for the first time in 22 years — new spec supports HDR and animation
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I did check some of the references.
What I dont understand is why you would perceive this content as more trustworthy if I didn't say it's AI.
Nobody should trust blindly some anonymous comment on a forum. I have to check what the AI blurbs out but you can just gobble the comment of some stranger without exercising yourself some critical thinking?
As long as I'm transparent on the source and especially since I did check some of it to be sure it's not some kind of hallucination...
There shouldn't be any difference of trust between some random comment on a social network and what some AI model thinks on a subject.
Also it's not like this is some important topic with societal implications. It's just a technical question that I had (and still doesn't) that doesn't mandate researching. None of my work depends on that lib. So before my comment there was no information on compatibility. Now there is but you have to look at it critically and decide if you want to verify or trust it.
That's why I regret this kind of stubborn downvoting where people just assume the worse instead of checking the actual data.
Sometime I really wonder if I'm the only one supposed to check my data? Aren't everybody here capable of verifying the AI output if they think it's worth the time and effort?
Basically, downvoting here is choosing "no information" rather than "information I have to verify because it's AI generated".
Edit: Also I could have just summarized the AI output myself and not mention AI. What then? Would you have checked the accuracy of that data? Critical thinking is not something you use "sometimes" or just "on some comments".
You realize that if we wanted to see an
AILLM response, we'd ask anAILLM ourselves.
What you're doing is akin to :Hey guys, I've asked google if the new png is backward compatible, and here are the first links it gave me, hope this helps : [list 200 links]
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Now if anyone don't mind explaining, PNG vs JXL?
JXL is badly supported but it does offer lossless encoding in a more flexible and much more efficient way than png does
Basically jxl could theoretically replace png, jpg, and also exr.
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I don't know. If the poster couldn't be bothered to fact-check, why would I? It is just safer to assume that it can be misinformation.
If you prefer to know nothing about PNG compatibility rather than something that might be true about PNG. That's fine but definitely not my approach.
Also, as I said to another commenter. Critical thinking is not some tool you decide to use on some comments and not others. An AI answer on some topics is actually more likely to be correct than an answer by a human being. And it's not some stuff I was told by an AI guru it's what researchers are evaluating in many universities. Ask an human to complete various tasks and then ask the AI model and compare scientifically the data. And it turns out there is task where the AI outperforms the human pretty much all the time.
YET on this particular task the assumption is that it's bullshit and it's just downvoted. Now I would have posted the same data myself and for some reason I would not see a single downvote. The same data represented differently completely change the likelihood of it being accurate. Even though at the end of the day you shouldn't trust blindly neither a comment from an human or an AI output.
Honestly, I'm saddened to see people already rejecting completely the technology instead of trying to understand what it's good at and what it's bad at and most importantly experiencing it themselves.
I wanted to know what was generative AI worth so I read about it and tried it locally with open source software. Now I know how to spot images that are AI generated, I know what's difficult for this tech and what is not. I think that's a much healthier attitude than blindly rejecting any and all AI outputs.
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Ooh, that was the coaster company, I remember them.
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That depends. Something like HDR should be able to fall back to non-HDR since it largely just adds data, so if the format specifies that extra information is ignored, there's a chance it works fine.
I'm not sure you can turn an hdr image into a regular one just by snipping it down to 8 bits per channel and discarding the rest.
I mean it would work but I'm not certain you'll get the best results.
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JXL is badly supported but it does offer lossless encoding in a more flexible and much more efficient way than png does
Basically jxl could theoretically replace png, jpg, and also exr.
Interestingly, I downloaded GNOME's pride month wallpaper to see what it looked like, and the files were JXL. Never seen them in the wild before that
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I'm not sure you can turn an hdr image into a regular one just by snipping it down to 8 bits per channel and discarding the rest.
I mean it would work but I'm not certain you'll get the best results.
it would work
And that's probably enough. I don't know enough about HDR to know if it would look anything like the artist imagined, but as long as it's close enough, it's fine if it's not optimal. Having things completely break is far less than ideal.
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it would work
And that's probably enough. I don't know enough about HDR to know if it would look anything like the artist imagined, but as long as it's close enough, it's fine if it's not optimal. Having things completely break is far less than ideal.
You'd probably get some colours that end up being quite off target. But you'll get an image to display. So in the end it depends on how much "not optimal" you're ready to accept.
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You realize that if we wanted to see an
AILLM response, we'd ask anAILLM ourselves.
What you're doing is akin to :Hey guys, I've asked google if the new png is backward compatible, and here are the first links it gave me, hope this helps : [list 200 links]
I understand that. It's the downvoting of the clearly marked as AI LLM response. Is it detrimental to the conversation here to have that? Is it better to share nothing rather than this LLM output?
Was this thread better without it?
Is complete ignorance of the PNG compatibility preferable to reading this AI output and pondering how true is it?
[list 200 links]
Now I think this conversation is getting just rude for no reason.
I think the AI output was definitely not the "I'm lucky" result of a Google search and the fact that you choose that metaphor is in bad faith. -
I understand that. It's the downvoting of the clearly marked as AI LLM response. Is it detrimental to the conversation here to have that? Is it better to share nothing rather than this LLM output?
Was this thread better without it?
Is complete ignorance of the PNG compatibility preferable to reading this AI output and pondering how true is it?
[list 200 links]
Now I think this conversation is getting just rude for no reason.
I think the AI output was definitely not the "I'm lucky" result of a Google search and the fact that you choose that metaphor is in bad faith.Was this thread better without it?
Yes.
I, and I assume most people, go into the comments on Lemmy to interact with other people. If I wanted to fucking chit-chat with an LLM (why you'd want to do that, I can't fathom), I'd go do that. We all have access to LLMs if we wish to have bullshit with a veneer of eloquency spouted at us.
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You'd probably get some colours that end up being quite off target. But you'll get an image to display. So in the end it depends on how much "not optimal" you're ready to accept.
Right, and it depends on what "quite off target" means. Are we talking about greens becoming purples? Or dark greens becoming bright greens? If the image is still mostly recognizable, just with poor saturation or contrast or whatever, I think it's acceptable for older software.
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I did check some of the references.
What I dont understand is why you would perceive this content as more trustworthy if I didn't say it's AI.
Nobody should trust blindly some anonymous comment on a forum. I have to check what the AI blurbs out but you can just gobble the comment of some stranger without exercising yourself some critical thinking?
As long as I'm transparent on the source and especially since I did check some of it to be sure it's not some kind of hallucination...
There shouldn't be any difference of trust between some random comment on a social network and what some AI model thinks on a subject.
Also it's not like this is some important topic with societal implications. It's just a technical question that I had (and still doesn't) that doesn't mandate researching. None of my work depends on that lib. So before my comment there was no information on compatibility. Now there is but you have to look at it critically and decide if you want to verify or trust it.
That's why I regret this kind of stubborn downvoting where people just assume the worse instead of checking the actual data.
Sometime I really wonder if I'm the only one supposed to check my data? Aren't everybody here capable of verifying the AI output if they think it's worth the time and effort?
Basically, downvoting here is choosing "no information" rather than "information I have to verify because it's AI generated".
Edit: Also I could have just summarized the AI output myself and not mention AI. What then? Would you have checked the accuracy of that data? Critical thinking is not something you use "sometimes" or just "on some comments".
Are you really asking why advertising that "the following comment may be hallucinated" nets you more downvotes than just omitting that fact?
You're literally telling people "hey, this is a low effort comment" and acting flabbergasted that it gets you downvotes.
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Goodbye gif hello png?
Is it pronounced png or png?
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Is it pronounced png or png?
PNG, like "PNG"
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I did check some of the references.
What I dont understand is why you would perceive this content as more trustworthy if I didn't say it's AI.
Nobody should trust blindly some anonymous comment on a forum. I have to check what the AI blurbs out but you can just gobble the comment of some stranger without exercising yourself some critical thinking?
As long as I'm transparent on the source and especially since I did check some of it to be sure it's not some kind of hallucination...
There shouldn't be any difference of trust between some random comment on a social network and what some AI model thinks on a subject.
Also it's not like this is some important topic with societal implications. It's just a technical question that I had (and still doesn't) that doesn't mandate researching. None of my work depends on that lib. So before my comment there was no information on compatibility. Now there is but you have to look at it critically and decide if you want to verify or trust it.
That's why I regret this kind of stubborn downvoting where people just assume the worse instead of checking the actual data.
Sometime I really wonder if I'm the only one supposed to check my data? Aren't everybody here capable of verifying the AI output if they think it's worth the time and effort?
Basically, downvoting here is choosing "no information" rather than "information I have to verify because it's AI generated".
Edit: Also I could have just summarized the AI output myself and not mention AI. What then? Would you have checked the accuracy of that data? Critical thinking is not something you use "sometimes" or just "on some comments".
Also it’s not like this is some important topic with societal implications. It’s just a technical question that I had (and still doesn’t) that doesn’t mandate researching.
So why "research" it with AI in the first place, if you don't care about the results and don't even think it's worth researching? This is legitimately absurd to read.
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PNG PNG!
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PNG, like "PNG"
No no no, it's pronounced "PNG"
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How does this compare to nvidia JXR hdr screenshots ?
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Animated PNG has been trying to be an extension to the PNG spec for 20+ years.
Right there's actually like a select few applications that support it which is cool, but so many get confused when they see an apng file with frames.
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Yeah in browser. I should probably open an issue ticket if nobody else noticed yet.
Relevant issue: https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/issues/665
tl;dr - it's an issue with the pillow image library in python. It's on our radar though. I got posts working, but you have to click through, the thumbnail still isn't animated.
