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Fatphobia Is Fueled by AI-Created Images, Study Finds

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    I’m a little done holding space for people trying to argue that being overweight/obese is not a serious health issue. Like, we need to treat it like smoking: no, you’re not a bad person for smoking, but smoking is bad for your health and quitting is good.

    I honestly think there’s a lack of personal responsibility among folks—particularly online—who simply refuse to see anything wrong with themselves and think all lifestyles are equally valid no matter what.

    Idk, as someone who’s struggled with being overweight since childhood, it really bugs me to try to reframe obesity as something that’s not a serious health problem and that society needs to accommodate certain unhealthy life choices. Again comparing with smoking, I’m very very VERY glad that stores/restaurants now ban smoking indoors. Sucks for the smokers, sure, but society does not need to accommodate all ways of life—particularly those that are straight up unhealthy. If you want to adopt unhealthy behaviors, that’s on you; don’t make it my problem.

  • The headline is not only bait but also wrong

    At best, they could claim that AI-generated images are fueled by societal associations of negative attributes with obesity

    And surely the use of the word phobia in an academic context should be more rigorous

    Agreed, AI just like all media, has the biggest question of "is it fueling bias's, or just reflecting them". It's drawing what people think of when they see something.

    It isn't racist for me to say, getting pulled over for no reason is far more likely if your skin is darker, it's just what society is.

    and that's of course before we talk about the general discussion of actually effective ways to deal with obesity in society... which is more complicated. Obviously directly shaming, has a negative impact. Making someone with an eating disorder feel shitty about themselves, makes it harder to overcome the disorder. At the same time saying it's not a problem for them to face at all is also not going to help them want to change.

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    It wouldn't surprise me if 'fatphobia' turned out to be a psyop, like the corporate-funded research into nutrition whose aim is to plant a particular meme in the public conscience ('don't give up soda kids, just exercise to lose all that weight!')

    50 years of high-fructose food ubiquity doesn't negate millennia of evolutionary conditioning that expects us to be on foot most of the day, consuming high protein diets and covering 10+km distances

    The notion that we can out-social engineer physical reality is a doggedly persistent one

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    Fatphobia energy should be redirected into carbohydrate education. We ban cigarettes not smokers. Teach overweight people their problem is all the carbs in their diet (sugar, soda, pizza, candy, etc).

  • The term fatphobia in general always irked me, it’s a co-opting of phobias usage with homophobia and feels like it’s trying to elevate itself to that level.

    There are definitely folk who see obese people as an acceptable target because they can hide behind (valid) health claims, and then justify their moral superiority because they don't have those "personal failures".

    The litmus test is if they think Semaglutide/GLP-1 is "legitimate" or obese people using it are "cheating".

  • Fatphobia energy should be redirected into carbohydrate education. We ban cigarettes not smokers. Teach overweight people their problem is all the carbs in their diet (sugar, soda, pizza, candy, etc).

    Just yesterday I was discussing this issue with my wife. Here we have "Physical Education" in schools, which is mostly kids doing exercises or some kind of sport activity in school, a couple of hours per week. This is surely fine, but I'd also like kids being taught the right way to eat, things to avoid, things to limit... I think it would be an investment for the future, which could avoid a lot of problems related to bad eating habits.

  • Just yesterday I was discussing this issue with my wife. Here we have "Physical Education" in schools, which is mostly kids doing exercises or some kind of sport activity in school, a couple of hours per week. This is surely fine, but I'd also like kids being taught the right way to eat, things to avoid, things to limit... I think it would be an investment for the future, which could avoid a lot of problems related to bad eating habits.

    I strongly agree! The current food pyramid experiment isn't working.

  • I’m a little done holding space for people trying to argue that being overweight/obese is not a serious health issue. Like, we need to treat it like smoking: no, you’re not a bad person for smoking, but smoking is bad for your health and quitting is good.

    I honestly think there’s a lack of personal responsibility among folks—particularly online—who simply refuse to see anything wrong with themselves and think all lifestyles are equally valid no matter what.

    Idk, as someone who’s struggled with being overweight since childhood, it really bugs me to try to reframe obesity as something that’s not a serious health problem and that society needs to accommodate certain unhealthy life choices. Again comparing with smoking, I’m very very VERY glad that stores/restaurants now ban smoking indoors. Sucks for the smokers, sure, but society does not need to accommodate all ways of life—particularly those that are straight up unhealthy. If you want to adopt unhealthy behaviors, that’s on you; don’t make it my problem.

    Hey, at least being fat doesn't create an aura of stench that makes anyone nearby miserable.

  • Just yesterday I was discussing this issue with my wife. Here we have "Physical Education" in schools, which is mostly kids doing exercises or some kind of sport activity in school, a couple of hours per week. This is surely fine, but I'd also like kids being taught the right way to eat, things to avoid, things to limit... I think it would be an investment for the future, which could avoid a lot of problems related to bad eating habits.

    Wtf? You arent taught this? I learned it growing up in Canada and my kids are too, here in Japan.

  • Wtf? You arent taught this? I learned it growing up in Canada and my kids are too, here in Japan.

    I'm pretty positive that, although teacher may casually mention it, that's not a specific topic in school. And it should be.

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    This was also tried in Canada and Australia. Here's the story in the EU: Germany made this kind of law in 2013. This was struck down in 2019 because of a formality. The EU had not been notified in advance, as would have been required in such a matter. (outdated and incomplete WP entry) Then the industry lobbied the EU and got such a law enacted EU wide in 2021. The press is still extremely influential in Europe and causes a lot of damage as it struggles against its inevitable decline. The problem with these laws, as others have pointed out, is that tech companies will simply follow them. Outrageous, no? Well, it is when you're a copyright head. The press made licensing deals, but they want much, much more money. The latest splash was a few months ago when Google made an experiment to better estimate the revenue they generate from news content. In France, the press went to court and got an injunction that stopped the experiment.
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    Maybe you're right: is there verification? Neither content policy (youtube or tiktok) clearly lays out rules on those words. I only find unverified claims: some write it started at YouTube, others claim TikTok. They claim YouTube demonetizes & TikTok shadowbans. They generally agree content restrictions by these platforms led to the propagation of circumspect shit like unalive & SA. TikTok policy outlines their moderation methods, which include removal and ineligibility to the for you feed. Given their policy on self-harm & automated removal of potential violations, their policy is to effectively & recklessly censor such language. Generally, censorship is suppression of expression. Censorship doesn't exclusively mean content removal, though they're doing that, too. (Digression: revisionism & whitewashing are forms of censorship.) Regardless of how they censor or induce self-censorship, they're chilling inoffensive language pointlessly. While as private entities they are free to moderate as they please, it's unnecessary & the effect is an obnoxious affront on self-expression that's contorting language for the sake of avoiding idiotic restrictions.
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