I don't give two flying fucks who runs space x. Once again. I'm not defending Elon in anyway.

I am expressing my concern about the United States government nationalizing a private company. You're still making bassless assumptions. Pull your head out of your own ass and actually think about what I'm saying before spouting off at the mouth.

you just defend his right to run spacex on specialK.

Is not the US "the land of the free" ?
Obviously he has the right to run SpaceX, like you have the right to try to build another one.

But obviously you seems to not understand what are the implication of setting this kind of precedent and all the implications that will arise. But that's ok, after all the only important thing is to hate Musk.

super high tax brackets for the rich

I'm a communist and I believe in the expropriation of their capital to eliminate super-richness, not in their taxation.

workers rights we have fought for and established in this country

Your country (the US judging by the comment) has miserable worker rights, as a western-European. Worker rights are bad here, but the US takes the cake.

I would not go ahead and give you guys full credit nor say that these are policies that are specific to you. Most of this stuff is just center/left social welfare and human rights

I'm not so sure. The legal abolition of homelessness and unemployment is far from being a centre/left welfare measure, as evidenced by the fact that the only countries that have achieved this are communist ones such as Cuba or the Soviet Union.

we certainly don’t agree on how to bring them about

We don't agree on how to bring them about because the liberal method of bringing them about is proven ineffective in every single instance of liberal democracy. Worker rights and welfare are systematically being eroded in essentially all liberal democracies for the past 3-4 decades, home ownership rates decrease, unemployment increases, retirement age gets delayed (Denmark just rose it to 70 years e.g.), education and healthcare budgets get gutted, infrastructure crumbles, real wages diminish for the majority of the population, and little action is taken against climate change. There were only advancements in worker rights in Europe (and less so in the USA) because of the fear of communist revolution in the past century, hence the complete lack of progress and actual degradation of rights and democracy with the rise of the far right all over the Western World.

I'm not USian so I didn't support any of your genocidal candidates. Funny how you talked of purity tests earlier in your comment and come up with that later. But as an outsider: the US liberal obsession with blaming the election loss on the progressives and not on, you know, the politicians enacting genocide and not doing anything about improving the living conditions of people in the US while in government seems pretty weird. If the Democrats can't bring themselves to even remotely appear more appealing than LITERAL DONALD TRUMP to the average voter, what the fuck are they doing?

Stop cutting their funding and saying the earth is flat and that global warming is a myth.

They weren't as typical with previous SpaceX models, Starship is easily their least successful project.

Since SpaceX is launching large quantities of commercial satellites, big whoop, do you also celebrate when companies buy back stocks?

All of these were taken by the state, not the workers, which was the question.

I mean companies can force him out by themselves if they're pressured enough. Also all companies make unsuccessful business bets. What matters is that from a neutral third person point of view, these companies aren't doing anything that they're not supposed to be doing. They're putting sectors of the American economy in danger of collapse, they're not committing crimes left and right, and their services are satisfactory for most people.

Ah. My Kessler syndrome is acting up again.

Didn't know about Amtrak. Interesting. Thanks

Why would I celebrate stock buybacks?

Also spacex lost like 20 or so Falcons before their first successful mission. Maybe they will explode as many Starships, but they have hit that number yet.

It’s ok to hate Elon, and there are many valid criticisms to make regarding spacex, but they’re the best in the world right now and it isn’t even close.

The biggest issue with Spacex is that Elon needs to be removed before he ruins it like he ruined Tesla.

ffs have better standards in your selection of contractors. or perhaps you're on too much horse tranq too.

But obviously you seems to not understand

Yeah, and obviously, you only have a passing familiarity with the english language.

then defend his drug use. defend doge. come on, make rational arguments for the bullshit, oh, you can't, that's why you're down to insults.

look fuckwit, you couldn't find your point with a flashlight and a map, and you're telling me to remove my rectum from MY CRANIUM? You want a man addled on horse tranq to run the only company producing orbital launch for the US.

I think it's your head that's rectum-fied. In fact, this entire discourse is dragging me down to your level. Gonna block you, should have done it before. Enjoy your ketamine kid, hope when he's responsible for killing astronauts you pause and reflect.

pfft

You think my dislike of Musk is all of spaceX. I don't want him ruining spaceX. Musk is responsible for the launch cadence that keeps exploding, if you'd like to make comparisons.

Absolute moron. You absolute moron. Once again my argument is about nationalizing a private company.

Is there anything that you'd like to talk about concerning that!

Wait a minute. It is not that NASA when developed the rocket that culminated with the Apollo V did not even had a rocket exploding, they had their fair share of failures (and some even letal).

But the main difference is that SpaceX and NASA have different approaches: NASA cannot, for various polical reasons, tolerate a rocket exploding during a test, SpaceX can.
I would argue that NASA, in its current incarnation and political situation, would never be able to design, build and manage something like the Falcon 9.

So Musk is not ruining SpaceX with the Starship failures in my opinion, since it is inherent to SpaceX that way to work.

Then that Musk is sometime a little too borderline is true, but I suppose that now he cannot really ruin any of his companies, for whatever you can think about him I really doubt that he is that stupid.

Stop cutting their funding

Stop electing stupid people and maybe you will get something.

and saying the earth is flat

Stop treating every opinion as worth of discussion even if it is clearly stupid.

and that global warming is a myth.

Start to propose some reasonable solutions and start to pass over the NIMBY syndrome.
(and no, only stopping to use ICE cars or fossil fuel is not a reasonable solution until you propose a sustainable alternative solution)

is not that NASA when developed the rocket that culminated with the Apollo V did not even had a rocket exploding

dude english, wtf is this sentence even supposed to say? are you an LLM?

fucking hell.

Then that Musk is sometime a little too borderline is true, but I suppose that now he cannot really ruin any of his companies, for whatever you can think about him I really doubt that he is that stupid.

again with the word salad. english better be your third or 4th language.

if you doubt his stupidity, then evaluate the logic of doing large amounts OF HORSE TRANQUALIZER WHILE MANAGING MULTIPLE COMPANIES AND LAUNCHING ROCKETS.

Come on, make that one make sense word salad llm

is not that NASA when developed the rocket that culminated with the Apollo V did not even had a rocket exploding

dude english, wtf is this sentence even supposed to say? are you an LLM?

Nope, just a regular guy that do not speak English as first language.

But let me rephrase it, even if i am sure you understand what I mean.
When NASA was developing the rocket to go to the moon (the Apollo V) they had their large shares of failures, exactly like SpaceX is having now while developing Starship (and before it, the Falcon 9) which is even more complex and bigger than the Apollo V.

Then that Musk is sometime a little too borderline is true, but I suppose that now he cannot really ruin any of his companies, for whatever you can think about him I really doubt that he is that stupid.

again with the word salad. english better be your third or 4th language.

You are right. But again, I am sure you understand what I mean, but ok, let me rephrase also this.
Musk is sometime too borderline but I suppose that actually he really don't want to ruin his companies because, for bad as you can think about him, I think is not that stupid.

if you doubt his stupidity, then evaluate the logic of doing large amounts OF HORSE TRANQUALIZER WHILE MANAGING MULTIPLE COMPANIES AND LAUNCHING ROCKETS.

Come on, make that one make sense word salad llm

Wait, do you really think that Musk is the one that is doing all the jobs at Tesla and SpaceX ?
Again, you can think what you want about Musk himself, but the track record for SpaceX (over 250 launch in 2024) and Tesla (it demostrated something that every other car manufacturer deemed impossible) does not seems too bad.
And I would like to have an estimate about the "large amounts"

But feel free to attack my grammar and hate Musk.

Juno Jupiter flyby

But Juno went to Jupiter?