Google gets to keep Chrome, judge rules in search antitrust case
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Google should lose control of Android. Maybe then we'll keep the ability to install any app we want.
Google should be disconnected and erase from the internet like any other worm/virus
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I very much dislike Google but constantly search stuff on DDG, with little to no success. Then I’ll add !g to the front, and a decent chunk of the time what I’m looking for is top 3, not including all the sponsored shit.
Are there specific ways you search for DDG to be better?
I've had the exact opposite experience for the past year. I had to switch the default to DDG at work where I need to search for specific model numbers every day. I don't remember the last time I actually Googled something on the PC or phone (Firefox search bar with DDG default). I only use Google for maps where it's always been the best.
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I very much dislike Google but constantly search stuff on DDG, with little to no success. Then I’ll add !g to the front, and a decent chunk of the time what I’m looking for is top 3, not including all the sponsored shit.
Are there specific ways you search for DDG to be better?
Same. Ddg can't find shit.
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I very much dislike Google but constantly search stuff on DDG, with little to no success. Then I’ll add !g to the front, and a decent chunk of the time what I’m looking for is top 3, not including all the sponsored shit.
Are there specific ways you search for DDG to be better?
The only time I ever need to use a google bang is when im searching for something specifically local like a restaurant. DDG uses apple maps and apple maps is complete garbage.
When I cant find something on DDG and I use the !g 99% of the time I cant find it on google either.
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I very much dislike Google but constantly search stuff on DDG, with little to no success. Then I’ll add !g to the front, and a decent chunk of the time what I’m looking for is top 3, not including all the sponsored shit.
Are there specific ways you search for DDG to be better?
Try search aggregators, at least the fingerprint won't be attached to you (with some at least)
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That's it ? Usually these things go into appeal over and over but google just has to win once ?
Who would appeal? The case was started by the DOJ and the DOJ made this decision. Google apparently paid the requisite tribute to the Trump admin to make all of this go away, and so it has.
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The only time I ever need to use a google bang is when im searching for something specifically local like a restaurant. DDG uses apple maps and apple maps is complete garbage.
When I cant find something on DDG and I use the !g 99% of the time I cant find it on google either.
Funny how experiences can be so different. I find Apple Maps much better than Google maps.
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Fuuuuck.
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How disappointing but expected. I'm not even sure what would break googles search engine dominance outside of search engines becoming obsolete. I use DDG and I find it to be better than google but still so many people stand by google search with strong loyalty.
Oh come on now. All of the strong options would have worked. Don't let Google buy its competition off. Don't let Google buy it's default position. Don't let Google control the browser. That's it, problem solved.
You claim people are loyal, but if that were true, the aforementioned payoffs would not exist.
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Google should lose control of Android. Maybe then we'll keep the ability to install any app we want.
You think other companies would provide sideloading like samsung, and oneplus? They would lock the OS hard and make it difficult to even unlock. Making android more closed than before.
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Google Can Pay for Browsers for Search Deals in Antitrust Ruling - OMG! Ubuntu
United States District Judge Amit Mehta has ruled that Google can continue to pay other companies, including browser makers like Mozilla, to be their
OMG! Ubuntu (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)
United States District Judge Amit Mehta has ruled that Google can continue to pay other companies, including browser makers like Mozilla, to be their default search engine.
I see, I'll edit my other comment. So what even changes then, were they even making exclusive deals in the past? The discussion I remember was about how being the default made it difficult for others to compete since most people don't change the defaults.
I think that was mainly solved (here in the EU at least) by requiring a choice of search engine when first opening a browser.
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You think other companies would provide sideloading like samsung, and oneplus? They would lock the OS hard and make it difficult to even unlock. Making android more closed than before.
Well then why aren't they doing so now? They're already maintaining their own forks of android, should be pretty trivial to do.
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Well then why aren't they doing so now? They're already maintaining their own forks of android, should be pretty trivial to do.
They need to maintain compatibility with play services to access apps on play store.
Also, starting with OnUI 8 bootloader unlocking is no longer supported. On OxugenOS 16 its only allowed with restrictions. The hardening is already started.
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No one saw that coming
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You think other companies would provide sideloading like samsung, and oneplus? They would lock the OS hard and make it difficult to even unlock. Making android more closed than before.
I highly doubt AOSP can't mantain itself, and that manufacturers could build from it and do whatever.
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From the article you linked:
In return for Google being the default search engine in Firefox, Mozilla is expected to bank $400M+ a year.
Literally what I am talking about. I can still switch away from the default. No other search companies are being denied access to being set as the default search engine in Firefox. Google just pays a premium so they are the default out of the box, which would not be anti-competitive under this order.
bar the search giant from making exclusive deals to distribute its search or AI assistant products in ways that might cut off distribution for rivals.
This by definition does not cut off their distribution in Firefox. Google can still make this deal with Mozilla. It is not an exclusivity deal, it's a default search engine deal. Exclusivity or cutting off distribution would be making Google the only search engine option in Firefox.
I’m questioning why they would make such a lucrative deal with Mozilla in the future, now that antitrust is just a front for government extortion
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I'm on ecosia with okay search results. Sadly if I know it exists but still having problems I resist to Google but Supposedly ecosia plants trees with some of the revenue
Ecosia uses google, no?
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With reports of Elon Musk eying to buy Chrome or OpenAI… sorry but I believe this was the best outcome, what we need is people using more Firefox that is one of the few non-Chromium browser out there.
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I very much dislike Google but constantly search stuff on DDG, with little to no success. Then I’ll add !g to the front, and a decent chunk of the time what I’m looking for is top 3, not including all the sponsored shit.
Are there specific ways you search for DDG to be better?
It really seems to depend on the topic. I would say, on average DDG is better from my experience. However, when it doesn't work it really doesn't work. Google usually has something you want fairly early in the results.
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With reports of Elon Musk eying to buy Chrome or OpenAI… sorry but I believe this was the best outcome, what we need is people using more Firefox that is one of the few non-Chromium browser out there.
Yeah, i had the same thoughts. The current chrome is better than the "Hitlerdidnothingwrong AI-First" browser those goons would have cooked up...
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