Correction: Magats and tankies.

The thinking that any of the current fallout in the US is foreign-led is not giving any good explanations for the reality we observe and therefore procides no good solutions. What you're observing is primarily driven by the oligarch class in the US finding new ways to extract profit. That drives everything. It drives Fox, it drives the Heritage Foundation, it drives turning both parties in oligarch-serving machines. External factors are only helping accelerate it a bit. Feeding this machine with resources from the outside is a bad idea since most of those resources would be captured by the oligatchs. The only way out of this is to get an internal populist left movement to curb their power, reposses most of their resources and redestribute them to the masses.

they believe in democracy their own power, they don’t undermine allies also support genocide, they don’t plan to take health care do shit to provide public healthcare

"interested in acquiring"

It just happened that Trump discredited all previous US propaganda. So much resources invested to make the US look good, and it’s all gone.

If you don't think it was foreign led then you have no idea what you're talking about. It has been entirely led by Russia. Yes the oligarchs in the US have been a part of it, but they were unified and driven together by Russian interference in US politics. You want to ignore the part that Russia played in this, then you choose to rewrite history.

And your "only way out of this" -- why don't you tell me in small steps exactly how that happens. Lets hear it.

This means they have already acquired this and are currently using it, and have been for years

Oligarchs have been unified by their pursuit for profit long before Russia became able to push any sort of effective propaganda to Americans. The Heritage Foundation that peddles these ideas did not emerge from Russian interference in 2016. Neither did Fox whose entire purpose is peddling domestic oligarch propaganda. Neither did the Chicago School of Economics anti-worker takeover of national economic policy. US oligarchs did not offshore middle class jobs or bust unions on Russian advice. This has been going on for a lot longer than the last decade. The pushback started as a result of FDR's redistribution policies that cut US oligarch wealth in the aftermath of the Great Depression. First slowly, then more quickly.

And your "only way out of this" -- why you don't you tell me in small steps exactly how that happens. Lets hear it.

Campaign, donate and vote for "far-left" D candidates at every gov't level - like AOC, Zohran, etc. Campaign, donate and vote for "far-left" independent candidatss where there's no such candidates in that district. Join a union. Join a local socialist org. Eventually you'd tilt the balance of power in various gov't institutions. Whenever you do that, you tax the rich to death. But that goes without saying cause every "far-left" candidate has that on their agenda.

E: FWIW, was where you are in my thinking a few years ago. I didn't know as much about the historical development of econimic policy in the US, who drove it, who got richer, who got poorer, what tools were being used to do one or the other.

E2: And in case it isn't clear how taxing the rich to death solves the problem, it deprives them from the money they need to buy the democratic system. It puts that money back into the majority's pockets. Politicians have to fight for that money and therefore go back to serving the majority. They start passing the laws that you want passed. Like curbing online propaganda from both Zuckerberg and Putin. And many others that serve you instead of Bezos.

If on the other hand you eliminate all foreign propagnda with a magic wand today, all domestic propaganda will remain. Democratic control will remain in the hands of the oligarchs. They would keep making Americans poorer and poorer while scapegoating yet another group or actor. The most impoverished would completely lose faith in the democratic system because it no longer solves their problems. When the oligarchs propose a candidate who promises to solve the poverty (they themselves created) by dismantling democracy (since democracy is the only nonviolent tool that can strip them of their wealth), the desperate would vote for that. As FDR, and many others have explained a century ago.

I have to work everyday and I'm homeless, fuck you

This is so true.

What is wrong with using the best of psychological warfare to manipulate people? - A question the US government never asked.

I visited the US (small town in NY) in 2022 and every other lawn had a bunch of small Trump flags. Not even a presidential election year.

I fully believe a large share of the country voted for him at this point. Doesn't mean that he's absolved of fuckery in swing states

Imagine a maddening voice
coming out of the sockets in your house
the only way it will ever stop
is to go scorched earth
and you find a way that isn't violent,
not nukes, not viruses just something unanticipated
something you can't even point a gun at and destroy
that makes "it" all end somehow

You have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Sounds like the perfect candidate for a revolutionary. Fuck me, then go fix your shit.

I think they are scared little pussies who are afraid that if they let the left dominate the party, it will be a slippery slope to communism, and the American economy will collapse. The democrats fear change.
Despite clearly Social Democracy like Bernie or AOC is nothing of the sort. Denmark is mostly Social Democrat, and so are the other Scandinavian countries, and the freedom here is way above USA, and the wealth above what most comparable countries have achieved.

Now they got the Republicans doing in ½ a year, exactly what they feared the left might have done in 20.

Republicans are absolutely worse ESPECIALLY in this respect, which was USA being a hostile country now.
This especially goes towards allies, which we considered ourselves to be, since I'm from the EU. But Trump has treated every single fucking ally as if they were the enemy of USA.

All the things he does, are exactly the same a Russian asset under Putin would do.
Clearly trust with allies improved greatly under Obama and Biden, and deteriorated under Bush and Trump.
Problem is that with Trump 2, I'm not sure there's a way back anymore.

So you repeat your stupid mantra like a child as much as you want , the lack of comprehension is clearly on your side.

Big talk from someone who doesn't sleep on concrete every night. Punk.

Yeah, you visited some bumfuck small town, that's where they hide

I mean yeah, but look how many of those towns there are

I'm sorry, you're right. I'm seeing things through my privileged lenses. You worked hard for your patch of bare concrete and can't afford to lose it. Better do nothing and let fascism take over. That will make everything better I'm sure.