when the EU has done fuck all to help prevent what’s happened to it.

Oh boy the ignorance of that statement is so immense I don't even know where to begin.
First of all the cooperation of 28 countries to prevent war among themselves is far from not doing jack shit. Secondly EU has worked hard to avoid war through cooperation, but not as much militarily to end them. But still most European countries have been at the side of USA when they asked for it.

I'm sorry, your narrow ignorant perspective is simply not a level I really care to debate at.

It is not allies that are alienating USA, it's the other way around. Apparently USA believe they don't need allies, because they are acting hostile against everybody, even their closest allies, while being friendly to Russia!!
Neither USA or EU stand a chance against China alone, we need to cooperate, but USA is not cooperating they are being confrontational and undermining EU and just about every other ally even Canada which for decades has been the closest ally to USA, and helped USA every single time USA called for it. So has Denmark, yet USA threaten to take Greenland!!

WHAT FUCKING COOPERATION!?

I'm the ignorant one??? what the fuck did the EU do to help the US with obvious Russian interference in their politics? If you're truly not ignorant, like you say you aren't, then you could see what was happening. With Russia literally installing a russian asset into the US presidency. What the fuck did the EU do to prevent that?? Fucking nothing.

And this idea that the US was the isolationist one in this situation, when the EU literally just watched as Putin Installed a dictator of his choosing, while sitting on their metaphorical hands, is completely hypocritical.

How do you imagine it's the EU responsibility to protect USA against Russian interference? And should have special knowledge about it to protect USA that wasn't supplied? That simply doesn't make any sense at all.
USA is supposed to be the "intelligence" superpower, having a huge spy network with facilities spread out among allies, and I know for a fact my own country has helped USA a lot on intelligence. and is a 7 eyes member. We were also the ones warning about nuclear weapons being on the way to Cuba back in the 60's. And we have allowed US military on Greenland.

Why would we know more about Russian interference than USA themselves? But apart from that the Steele Dossier was from UK, and it clearly indicated Trump is a Russian asset, but the Americans have ignored ALL proof that Trump is obviously compromised, and elected him not just once but twice.

For instance I know one who was in the Danish marine, and they had top secret American spy equipment on board, that was kept secret also from Denmark, with no knowledge about what the equipment was, and what intelligence was gathered. Still that was allowed because USA was considered an ally.

One more insane comment like the 2 before and I block you.

Apparently you never fucking heard of the cold war and all the shit the US did to protect Europe during it. Maybe you should open a fucking book and fuck off.

I wonder if most of europe believes they could successfully fight a war against Russia, USA, China, Iran, North Korea, Syria... etc. I know Europe doesn't/didn't want to help the US avoid their current fascist dictatorship, so I wonder what they imagine the result would be in conflict against the new axis of evil.

Stop grouping the American people in with the President, most of us didn't vote for him.

Edit: The government is doing this, not us. The fucker rigged an election and Russian bots have given the deceptive impression that it's a larger percentage of people that support the president.

If you really think 40% of us voted for this shit, you're dumb enough to fall for Russian propaganda.

They absolutely are, they are still pandering to wall street, but they are not fascist they believe in democracy, and they don't undermine allies, they don't plan to take health care away from Americans, and on average they are not nearly as corrupt as the Republicans.

Claiming there is no difference is decidedly moronic and harmful to progress in USA, and a major part of the problems USA are in. USA now has a decidedly authoritarian government, democrats would never have been nearly as bad.

They absolutely are, they are still pandering to wall street, but they are not fascist they believe in democracy, and they don't undermine allies, they don't plan to take health care away from Americans, and on average they are not nearly as corrupt as the Republicans.

Claiming there is no difference is decidedly moronic and harmful to progress in USA, and a major part of the problems USA are in. USA now has a decidedly authoritarian government, democrats would never have been nearly as bad.

First of all, I hate what's happened to the US, but with that said...

There was a good decade or so where Russia was running a pretty obvious disinfo campaign against US citizens while literally setting up a Manchurian candidate in Donald trump. We already know to some extent that Europe had intel on the situation and really didn't do jack shit to try and prevent what has turned into Russian backed dictatorship.

So I disagree with you on the subject of alienation. I would argue that the EU set itself up to be alienated through its inaction.

On the subject of allies, I don't think there is a single person in the US that really believes it doesn't need allies. The US has just traded its western allies for eastern ones. Trump has been cozying up to other dictators around the world since his first term. These days he's very friendly with Putin.

So again, I disagree with you.

And I find it pretty fucking hilarious that you're talking about the US cooperating with the EU when the EU has done fuck all to help prevent what's happened to it. If there is war between these nations, there is almost no way the US will be allied with the EU. The US is a dictatorship and it will ally itself with other dictatorships.

"overseas"

Don't deflect. Fix.

What the actual fuck is "Europe doesn't/didn't want to help the US avoid their current fascist dictatorship" supposed to mean ?

What exactly do you think European countries should have done to stop Mango Mussolini being elected ?

Send in German troops to the red states to stand next to the ballot boxes and turn away MAGA voters ?

Send Keir Starmer to hand out leaflets for Harris at the Walmart in ButteFuck Wyoming ?

You dumb fucks voted for him, we can't fix that for you. We certainly can't send military in - the US has spent 50 years persuading and forcing the EU to be militarily weak (and 10 years bitching about the consequences of their own diplomatic efforts)

Piss off with this idiocy.

It wasn't the EU's role to defend our internal politics. It was ours.

And we were also trying to be careful. More careful than we should have been.

The goal was to remain as non-partisan as possible while giving the public enough info to make the right decision. We all failed in that.

I'm sick to death of these ignorant fucking comments. I see them, I block. Read about what the US did for its european allies during the cold war to get some semblance of an idea, beyond that I couldn't give two shits for your opinions.

It's hard to fix the problem when MAGAts are fucking morons. My dipshit moron uncle tried that shit on me recently, and tried to compare "what we've suffered the last 4 years" as if the fascist authoritarian crackdowns we are seeing are anywhere near anything under Biden.

These people are willingly and gladly stupid/ignorant and refuse anything that refutes the inaccurate worldview in their heads. I'm trying when I can, but talking to these dumbasses is infuriating at times (probably intentionally to keep people from being able to disabuse them of their ignorance).

First of all, I hate what's happened to the US, but with that said...

There was a good decade or so where Russia was running a pretty obvious disinfo campaign against US citizens while literally setting up a Manchurian candidate in Donald trump. We already know to some extent that Europe had intel on the situation and really didn't do jack shit to try and prevent what has turned into Russian backed dictatorship.

So I disagree with you on the subject of alienation. I would argue that the EU set itself up to be alienated through its inaction.

On the subject of allies, I don't think there is a single person in the US that really believes it doesn't need allies. The US has just traded its western allies for eastern ones. Trump has been cozying up to other dictators around the world since his first term. These days he's very friendly with Putin.

So again, I disagree with you.

And I find it pretty fucking hilarious that you're talking about the US cooperating with the EU when the EU has done fuck all to help prevent what's happened to it. If there is war between these nations, there is almost no way the US will be allied with the EU. The US is a dictatorship and it will ally itself with other dictatorships.

They absolutely are, they are still pandering to wall street, but they are not fascist they believe in democracy, and they don't undermine allies, they don't plan to take health care away from Americans, and on average they are not nearly as corrupt as the Republicans.

Claiming there is no difference is decidedly moronic and harmful to progress in USA, and a major part of the problems USA are in. USA now has a decidedly authoritarian government, democrats would never have been nearly as bad.

"overseas"