The Age-Checked Internet Has Arrived
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a lot of people. The other day I saw a post on mastodon by some politician or someone in the UK stating that if people find any site that is geoblocking the UK because of the age verification to report it to some link he provided. it was boosted A LOT with a lot of replies in support.
bootlickers.
Report why? They're entirely within their rights if they want to geoblock them.
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I legitimately dont understand who supports this. Who are these parents that can't parent their kids properly? It's so incredibly easy these days.
So instead of handling shitty parenting we restrict adults and with surveillance. Make it make sense.
It plays quite well with the “I think about things for two seconds, and mostly think with my lower intestine” crowd.
They hear “kids shouldn’t be able to access porn” and they think yeah what’s wrong with that. Then they hear “Democrats want your kids to get porn” and they hit share.
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See, there are a few ways this could go.
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Age verification is as secure and private as promised, and it's left at that. I like to call this "the miracle", and we all know those don't happen.
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Age verification is as secure and private as promised, but a government asks for "access to data to prevent crime" - things degenerate from there. This is the "systemic failure" scenario.
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Age verification is as secure and private as promised, but new scams evolve around it to make it dangerous. This would be the "criminal element" scenario.
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Age verification is not as secure and private as promised, and a leak occurs destroying lives and careers. This is the "system failure" scenario.
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Age verification is as secure and private as promised, but a few companies start scraping and selling data, leading to widespread harms. This is the "unethical merchant" scenario, and the most likely outcome.
All in all, there is only one "ok" scenario, and a lot of horrific ones. The math says we're entirely boned ^_^
Five seems to be the most plausible. Although knowing how shit corporate security is, I foresee a mix of three and four being common.
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See, there are a few ways this could go.
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Age verification is as secure and private as promised, and it's left at that. I like to call this "the miracle", and we all know those don't happen.
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Age verification is as secure and private as promised, but a government asks for "access to data to prevent crime" - things degenerate from there. This is the "systemic failure" scenario.
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Age verification is as secure and private as promised, but new scams evolve around it to make it dangerous. This would be the "criminal element" scenario.
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Age verification is not as secure and private as promised, and a leak occurs destroying lives and careers. This is the "system failure" scenario.
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Age verification is as secure and private as promised, but a few companies start scraping and selling data, leading to widespread harms. This is the "unethical merchant" scenario, and the most likely outcome.
All in all, there is only one "ok" scenario, and a lot of horrific ones. The math says we're entirely boned ^_^
Already been seeing bullshit “age verification” scams in replies on mastodon for over a week now. I’m sure they’re all over the commercial platforms.
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See, there are a few ways this could go.
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Age verification is as secure and private as promised, and it's left at that. I like to call this "the miracle", and we all know those don't happen.
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Age verification is as secure and private as promised, but a government asks for "access to data to prevent crime" - things degenerate from there. This is the "systemic failure" scenario.
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Age verification is as secure and private as promised, but new scams evolve around it to make it dangerous. This would be the "criminal element" scenario.
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Age verification is not as secure and private as promised, and a leak occurs destroying lives and careers. This is the "system failure" scenario.
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Age verification is as secure and private as promised, but a few companies start scraping and selling data, leading to widespread harms. This is the "unethical merchant" scenario, and the most likely outcome.
All in all, there is only one "ok" scenario, and a lot of horrific ones. The math says we're entirely boned ^_^
4, as it's already happening. It's just to be seen if people will have their lives ruined
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Well time to sell thumbdrives to teenagers filled with "tutorials.mp4" and "online class.mp4" lol.
Just give em live distros with tor installed.
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It is not age verification.
It is privacy invading, morality policing, de-anonymizing, state surveillance.
Nothing less.
PS. If you want to download a video from a site that doesn't have a download button, use the Inspect feature (right click on the page, not the video, and click inspect)
*On the Network tab - Sort by size. Reload page. Find the video. Open the video in new tab. It will be just the video. Right click and save as, or click the download button, or click the 3 dot menu button and select download.
On Firefox you can often bypass this entirely by shift + right click. And should see a save video as option. If not, the inspect feature works the same.
For hls/TS videos (m3u8 streams), if you reallllly want, you can copy the link for the stream and use VLC to convert the stream to a file.
This also often lets you download at higher resolution than they offer to download.
Yes, I porn.
*forgot Network tab
And thanks for all the suggestions. I'd rather not install browser plugins if I can do it without. CLI tools are cool though. The less I need to install the better.
to convert from hls (m3u8 streams) to mp4, you can also use ffmpeg:
ffmpeg -i https://y.com/path/to/stream.m3u8 -c copy output.mp4
-i <input>
specifies the input file-c copy
specifies that the contents should not be re-encoded (which would take a lot of time and computing power)output.mp4
is the output file
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I legitimately dont understand who supports this. Who are these parents that can't parent their kids properly? It's so incredibly easy these days.
So instead of handling shitty parenting we restrict adults and with surveillance. Make it make sense.
For a lot of people it is hard and over walking because they don’t understand.
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Totally in agreement. I think a bigger part of the issue is most people are completely tech illiterate. People can’t tell a computer from a monitor anymore and then we expect them to outsmart a kid with nothing better to do than stare at a screen for hours on end who will no doubt figure out ways around things. There has to be some feeling on the parents part of defeat. If only the politicians knew what the fuck they were doing we might get actual regulations for engineers to implement proper controls. The percentage of parents attempting to monitor their children appropriately while also having enough tech knowledge has to be low.
With you till the kids. Kids seem less tech literate than before. They can us tech but have no idea how anything works.
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Is it going to get to a point we are better off self hosting and having offline copies that we share instead?
I mean it’s already there for me.
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Most parents are way less literate than their kids. Most censorship/site restriction, can be circumvented easily.
I don’t think so. It’s like cars everyone has a car and can drive it but very few can fix them. Tech has become that.
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report, lol. what does that douchebag want to do? fine a foreign website for not serving content to his oh so precious country?
i am sorry, our Nigerian kebab food truck does not deliver to united of kingdom
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I really, really dont want to search for porn on the dark net...
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See, there are a few ways this could go.
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Age verification is as secure and private as promised, and it's left at that. I like to call this "the miracle", and we all know those don't happen.
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Age verification is as secure and private as promised, but a government asks for "access to data to prevent crime" - things degenerate from there. This is the "systemic failure" scenario.
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Age verification is as secure and private as promised, but new scams evolve around it to make it dangerous. This would be the "criminal element" scenario.
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Age verification is not as secure and private as promised, and a leak occurs destroying lives and careers. This is the "system failure" scenario.
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Age verification is as secure and private as promised, but a few companies start scraping and selling data, leading to widespread harms. This is the "unethical merchant" scenario, and the most likely outcome.
All in all, there is only one "ok" scenario, and a lot of horrific ones. The math says we're entirely boned ^_^
Or all of the above while still not being "as secure and private as promised".
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This isn't about being "age-checked". It's about IDing everyone on the internet and tracking where they go and what they do.
The world we live in is far far worse than anything from 1984.
Exactly this.
Governments have a rock hard boner for detailed face scans of every person.
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Can someone tell me if people are actually doing this or just using VPNs? Or what other routes are there around this?
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There's like a gazillion porn sites on the clearnet though, I can't imagine them being able to track then all
I am aware of many, I am just saying looking at the dark web is not a good idea because... well... OK we're all adults here. That's where all the CP is and I have no interest in seeing that shit.
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Or all of the above while still not being "as secure and private as promised".
Nothing is ever as secure and private as promised.
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I really, really dont want to search for porn on the dark net...
That’s what this is going to become. And that’s another point to this. They can just go after people using the dark net claim it was for kiddie porn even if it wasn't. the masses will just believe them.
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And if I can't, I'll just stop using the internet for anything I don't absolutely have to.
I don't really need my smartphone. A laptop will do.
You don't use the internet on a laptop?