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Operation Narnia: Iran’s nuclear scientists reportedly killed simultaneously using special weapon

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  • The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.

    The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.

    The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.

    The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.

    Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

    Just when I feel like dystopian news can't really disturb me anymore...

    Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all...

    How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:

    A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target's family, if not everyone in the apartment building.

    Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.

    israel and the us all deserve the nuremberg treatment for their crimes

  • Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

    This bit stood out to me. Israel has been planning this war since at least November of last year. Israel's current actions say this wasn't a simple "what if..." contingency plan that a government comes up with. This was a plan they were going to put into action soon. Makes it even more disgusting to me.

    I mean, that's not really surprising. Every military makes plans for any contingency, and Israel especially has always been paranoid about Iran's nuclear programme, so of course they would make sure they're tracking the scientists in case they needed to make a move.

    The disgusting part is them just pulling the trigger for political reasons instead of actual intelligence that indicates a breakout. And obviously killing civilians, which the scientists and their families are, but obviously Israel has shown in the past they don't care about that.

  • The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.

    The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.

    The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.

    The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.

    Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

    Just when I feel like dystopian news can't really disturb me anymore...

    Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all...

    How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:

    A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target's family, if not everyone in the apartment building.

    Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.

    It's time to stop believing the lies of Israel's might.

    They assassinated people in Tehran, they don't have a special weapon that killed all of them simultaneously. The same lies about "special systems" like the iron dome being impenetrable has been their tactic to ensure pressure on their states.

  • How is this all normal and ok?

    they have been doing this for decades, even to the point clandestine type novel stories are often written about them.

  • When Gandalf learns that Saruman is using one of the Lost Seeing Stones, his first instinct is mistrust and suspicion.

    Thiel is totally obsessed with lotr, but with a warped sense of what they represent. he also named companies after mithril, lembas, anduril,,,etc.

  • I mean, that's not really surprising. Every military makes plans for any contingency, and Israel especially has always been paranoid about Iran's nuclear programme, so of course they would make sure they're tracking the scientists in case they needed to make a move.

    The disgusting part is them just pulling the trigger for political reasons instead of actual intelligence that indicates a breakout. And obviously killing civilians, which the scientists and their families are, but obviously Israel has shown in the past they don't care about that.

    netanyahu is using the aggression as a way to stave off his own criminal trials prior to him being re-elected.

  • ok if there are actual Jewish space lasers I'm fucking done with this reality.

    they arnt getting the ion cannon network.

  • My bet is on small assassination drone. People like having windows in their bedroom. Small drone flies to house, has some mechanism to break window, then blows up once inside the bedroom.

    I bet it’s unpublished not because its technology of any particularly impressive degree. Its unpublished because everyday people could easily design the same thing with enough minor technical expertise. They train cadets at West Point to build this exact type of shit out of consumer goods for a reason

    Could also be unpublished because the method was absolutly inhumane.

  • The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.

    The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.

    The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.

    The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.

    Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

    Just when I feel like dystopian news can't really disturb me anymore...

    Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all...

    How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:

    A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target's family, if not everyone in the apartment building.

    Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.

    Special weapon won't save them in a long war with Iran. Which is why they want US involvement

  • I mean, that's not really surprising. Every military makes plans for any contingency, and Israel especially has always been paranoid about Iran's nuclear programme, so of course they would make sure they're tracking the scientists in case they needed to make a move.

    The disgusting part is them just pulling the trigger for political reasons instead of actual intelligence that indicates a breakout. And obviously killing civilians, which the scientists and their families are, but obviously Israel has shown in the past they don't care about that.

    Every military makes plans for any contingency,

    In defense, to respond to an attack.
    The word contingency is important.

    If the military is planning acts of aggression then that is called preparing for war.

  • Could also be unpublished because the method was absolutly inhumane.

    Exactly, they didn't just kill an individual, they bombed the whole building/block the individual was in - my personal believe.

  • Every military makes plans for any contingency,

    In defense, to respond to an attack.
    The word contingency is important.

    If the military is planning acts of aggression then that is called preparing for war.

    Yeah, that's definitely true for imperialist countries like Israel, the US and Russia.

  • The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.

    The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.

    The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.

    The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.

    Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

    Just when I feel like dystopian news can't really disturb me anymore...

    Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all...

    How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:

    A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target's family, if not everyone in the apartment building.

    Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.

    Marking people for assassination looks normal to the times of Israel. Nice people.

  • The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.

    The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.

    The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.

    The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.

    Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

    Just when I feel like dystopian news can't really disturb me anymore...

    Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all...

    How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:

    A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target's family, if not everyone in the apartment building.

    Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.

  • israel and the us all deserve the nuremberg treatment for their crimes

    The Nuremberg trials were a media propaganda circus.
    Exactly SIX nazis got the death penalty.
    The US/UK did everything they could to help the fascists escape and save them from the Soviets, rehabilitate them and keep their power.

  • Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

    This bit stood out to me. Israel has been planning this war since at least November of last year. Israel's current actions say this wasn't a simple "what if..." contingency plan that a government comes up with. This was a plan they were going to put into action soon. Makes it even more disgusting to me.

    They have been bombing Iran for years, OC these lunatics had these plans already.

  • Exactly, they didn't just kill an individual, they bombed the whole building/block the individual was in - my personal believe.

    How would the methodology of the assassination be secret if they had bombed an entire apartment block? Also bombing innocent lives isnt something the Israeli government tends to be concerned about hiding

  • The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.

    The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.

    The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.

    The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.

    Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

    Just when I feel like dystopian news can't really disturb me anymore...

    Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all...

    How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:

    A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target's family, if not everyone in the apartment building.

    Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.

    Could you please kill the leaders instead? Of Israel too?

  • Cell phones exploding?

    I'm guessing it's witheld from publication because they are explicit US tech (eg Predator drones) that has been used to strike whole apartment buildings just to take out (possibly, if the intel is even correct) one scientist. Would look really bad when the US is still pretending they're not really part of the conflict.

  • It's time to stop believing the lies of Israel's might.

    They assassinated people in Tehran, they don't have a special weapon that killed all of them simultaneously. The same lies about "special systems" like the iron dome being impenetrable has been their tactic to ensure pressure on their states.

    Special systems = indiscriminate bombing of residential building at night to maximize civilians murdered

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    All the research I am aware of - including what I referenced in the previous comment, is that people are honest by default, except for a few people who lie a lot. Boris Johnson is a serial liar and clearly falls into that camp. I believe that you believe that, but a couple of surveys are not a sufficient argument to prove the fundamental good of all humanity. If honesty were not the default, why would we believe what anyone has to say in situations where they have an incentive to lie, which is often? Why are such a small proportion of people criminals and fraudsters when for a lot of crimes, someone smart and cautious has a very low chance of being caught? I think this is just a lack of imagination. i will go through your scenarios and provide an answer but i don't think it's going to achieve anything, we just fundamentally disagree on this. why would we believe what anyone has to say in situations where they have an incentive to lie, which is often? You shouldn't. edit : You use experience with this person or in general, to make a judgement call about whether or not you want to listen to what they have to say until more data is available. You continue to refine based on accumulated experience. Why are such a small proportion of people criminals and fraudsters when for a lot of crimes, someone smart and cautious has a very low chance of being caught? A lot of assumptions and leaps here. Firstly crime implies actual law, which is different in different places, so let's assume for now we are talking about the current laws in the uk. Criminals implies someone who has been caught and prosecuted for breaking a law, I'm going with that assumption because "everyone who has ever broken a law" is a ridiculous interpretation. So to encompass the assumptions: Why are such a small proportion of people who have been caught and prosecuted for breaking the law in the uk, when someone smart and caution has a very low chance of being caught? I hope you can see how nonsensical that question is. The evolutionary argument goes like this: social animals have selection pressure for traits that help the social group, because the social group contains related individuals, as well as carrying memetically inheritable behaviours. This means that the most successful groups are the ones that work well together. A group first of all has an incentive to punish individuals who act selfishly to harm the group - this will mean the group contains mostly individuals who, through self interest, will not betray the group. But a group which doesn’t have to spend energy finding and punishing traitorous individuals because it doesn’t contain as many in the first place will do even better. This creates a selection pressure behind mere self interest. That's a nicely worded very bias interpretation. social animals have selection pressure for traits that help the social group, because the social group contains related individuals, as well as carrying memetically inheritable behaviours. This is fine. This means that the most successful groups are the ones that work well together. That's a jump, working well together might not be the desirable trait in this instance. But let's assume it is for now. A group first of all has an incentive to punish individuals who act selfishly to harm the group - this will mean the group contains mostly individuals who, through self interest, will not betray the group. Reductive and assumptive, you're also conflating selfishness with betrayal, you can have on without the other, depending on perceived definitions of course. But a group which doesn’t have to spend energy finding and punishing traitorous individuals because it doesn’t contain as many in the first place will do even better. This creates a selection pressure behind mere self interest. Additional reduction and a further unsupported jump, individuals are more than just a single trait, selfishness might be desirable in certain scenarios or it might be a part of an individual who's other traits make up for it in a tribal context. The process of seeking and the focused attention might be a preferential selection trait that benefits the group. Powerful grifters try to protect themselves yes, but who got punished for pointing out that Boris is a serial liar? Everyone who has been negatively impacted by the policies enacted and consequences of everything that was achieved on the back of those lies. Because being ignored is still a punishment if there are negative consequences. But let's pick a more active punishment, protesting. Protest in a way we don't like or about a subject we don't approve of, it's now illegal to protest unless we give permission. That's reductive, but indicative of what happened in broad strokes. Have you read what the current government has said about the previous one? I'd imagine something along the lines of what the previous government said about the one before ? As a society we generally hate that kind of behaviour. Society as a whole does not protect wealth and power; wealth and power forms its own group which tries to protect itself. Depends on how you define society as a whole. By population, i agree. By actual power to enact change(without extreme measures), less so Convenient that you don't include the wealth and power as part of society, like its some other separate thing. You should care because it entirely colours how you interact with political life. “Shady behaviour” is about intent as well as outcome, and we are talking in this thread about shady behaviour, and hence about intent. See [POINT A]
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