Iran has the right to defend themselves and israel has proven again that Iran is in need of this defense.

I'm sure you still think it was a great thing we got to iraq before they set off those wmd's

It's civilian scientists working on nuclear energy we are talking about.

You're part of the problem.

In a democracy, the people get the government that they deserve, at least the near-majority of them do.

And it's on the IAEA to declare that they are indeed working on a weapons program, not speculation and assumption like yours.

Okay. Don’t use your reason if you’d prefer not to. It does make me wonder though:

Do you think the killing of the civilian scientists was wrong because they were civilian scientists, or because they were ostensibly working on an energy program?

Because as I said, I’m not claiming the murders were justified, just that we ought to be honest about the why.

There are plenty making the argument that Iran needs a nuclear weapons program to prevent exactly these types of attacks. That is intellectually honest. I’m not sure where I fall on that argument, I’d rather no one have nuclear weapons (but obviously that’s not going to happen).

The difference between 5% and 60% enrichment is pretty huge. And the research and effort required to get there is neither cheap nor easy. If what they’re after is nuclear energy, there is absolutely no reason to continue risking the ire of the international community and the repeated attacks by Israel. They’ve had energy-level uranium for a very long time already.

There is no such thing as democracy, it's only a theoretical concept.

iran shouldn't have funded hamas and terrorist activity around the world. Iran fucked around and now its finding out.

Iran is simply countering the terrorist state known as israel.

the terrorist state that launched a war against real terrorists after they murdered over 1200 people and took hundreds of people including children hostage.

your REAL terrorist propaganda doesn't work on me. blocked.

o my sweet summer child....

They aren't innocent, they are knowingly creating a devastating weapon of mass destruction for a regime who has declared that they intend to use it. While I don't support this sort of unprovoked attack, I can't get too worked up over the demise of literally mad scientists.

I understand, and it's good that you want to find out stuff.
I'll gladly try to help.

I think it's important not to focus on Nuremberg but understand the purpose of it in the big picture about WW2.
Like I said, the Nuremberg trials where a show trial.
To say to the world: 'look here, justice has been done and the bad nazis are punished, we can move on now'.
They made an example of those on trial and the world could enjoy watching a few of them hang.

I'll post some links to what is swept under the carpet and never taught in schools, the uncomfortable truth that US/UK/Eu capitalists had no problem with fascism and helped it survive.
That they went to great lengths to save awful warcriminals and made sure other nazis remained in power in Europe.

https://ebeggin.substack.com/p/ratlines-nato-and-the-fourth-reich
https://www.businessinsider.com/former-nazi-officials-in-germany-post-world-war-ii-government-2016-10?r=US&IR=T
https://www.dispropaganda.com/single-post/2019/04/04/natos-secret-nazi-past
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB_Gs-0dhOo

The support for fascists continued post war too:

Covertly, as for example in Project Aerodynamic

But even openly, as they saw no problem in accepting clear fascist states like Spain (Franco), Portugal (Salazar) or Greece into NATO.

Only one is defensible.

That sounds like total bullshit, according to that logic anything could be declared a military target and therefore nothing would fall under the Geneva convention. I think you're talking out of your ass.