Operation Narnia: Iran’s nuclear scientists reportedly killed simultaneously using special weapon
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So Netanyahu let close to 1200 Israelis die of which 736 were civilians? Are any Israelis condemning him for that?
So Netanyahu let close to 1200 Israelis die of which 736 were civilians?
I don't think any of those articles claims that Netanyahu let these specific attacks happen, so I think your conclusion is pretty wild. There was some pieces of intelligence about a possible attack. Do you know how many similar pieces of intelligence they have and deal with every day?
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They're an Islamic Republic. That puts a certain kind of upper limit to their intelligence, not to mention morality and ethics.
one racist statement to gaslight the forum
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"the troll left his calling card"
"it says pussy"
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jeez you're a racist scumbag POS.
It's not racist to say that a theocracy scares a lot of smart people away. I know multiple Iranian families who all fled Iran after 1979 and came to Europe. All highly educated, all very opposed to the Islamic Republic that ruined their country.
Here, the effect is notable enough to have its own Wiki article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_capital_flight_from_Iran
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one racist statement to gaslight the forum
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"the troll left his calling card"
"it says pussy"
What do you mean, "no further replies"? Are you referring to the toxic people I blocked?
Are you one of them?
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Oh are they also bombing refugees that they themselves created? My goodness, someone should stop that!
Humans have rights, not states, and Israel's existence as an apartheid state is mutually exclusive with the rights of the humans living there.
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Yeah, seems like the lesson is build nukes at all costs, as it's the only safeguard against attack.
Also see Libya's nuclear program.
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Please understand that I'm not some liberal, and I'm open to your perspective. I'm not being argumentative, I'm just asking for a source. I'm interested in finding out more about the Nuremberg trials, and typically google suggests libbed up shit, so I'm asking you specifically to help me out.
I understand, and it's good that you want to find out stuff.
I'll gladly try to help.I think it's important not to focus on Nuremberg but understand the purpose of it in the big picture about WW2.
Like I said, the Nuremberg trials where a show trial.
To say to the world: 'look here, justice has been done and the bad nazis are punished, we can move on now'.
They made an example of those on trial and the world could enjoy watching a few of them hang.I'll post some links to what is swept under the carpet and never taught in schools, the uncomfortable truth that US/UK/Eu capitalists had no problem with fascism and helped it survive.
That they went to great lengths to save awful warcriminals and made sure other nazis remained in power in Europe.https://ebeggin.substack.com/p/ratlines-nato-and-the-fourth-reich
https://www.businessinsider.com/former-nazi-officials-in-germany-post-world-war-ii-government-2016-10?r=US&IR=T
https://www.dispropaganda.com/single-post/2019/04/04/natos-secret-nazi-past
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB_Gs-0dhOoThe support for fascists continued post war too:
Covertly, as for example in Project Aerodynamic
But even openly, as they saw no problem in accepting clear fascist states like Spain (Franco), Portugal (Salazar) or Greece into NATO.
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It's not racist to say that a theocracy scares a lot of smart people away. I know multiple Iranian families who all fled Iran after 1979 and came to Europe. All highly educated, all very opposed to the Islamic Republic that ruined their country.
Here, the effect is notable enough to have its own Wiki article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_capital_flight_from_Iran
Wikipedia sucks ass.
And 1979? LOL
When they removed the US installed shah regime.
The Iranian equivalent of Cuban gusanos.The US/UK ruined their country when these vultures overthrew the democratic Mossadeq regime to steal their oil as always.
And you know it.
Iranians are highly educated now,
They produce as many engineering graduates annually as the United States.
70% of them are WOMEN.
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The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.
The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.
The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.
The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.
Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.
Just when I feel like dystopian news can't really disturb me anymore...
Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all...
How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:
A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target's family, if not everyone in the apartment building.
Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.
Wait these genocidal idiots really called it "Operation Narnia"?
wtf
vomits on ground
This would be disgusting if it was just a normal act of war, of killing soldiers and calling it a cute name like this to disguise how any war is a tragedy, but there is a much more serious red flag here about Israel and Israeli society, this shows a blatant disregard for the humanity of these SCIENTISTS by assassinating them and making a joke out of it about sending them to dream land. Not only is this murder, the motive is a blatant lie, Iran was not developing a nuclear weapon that is undeniable and unarguable based on the overwhelming evidence.
If you still think that Israel and the US aren't coming for science, freedom of thought and peace in general you are a fool. I live in the heart of this dying empire, the US, and let me tell you, they are coming for you if you are a scientist, run or fight, either is fine but pick one soon before it is too late.
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You didn't check any of the links I gave.
No surprise then you know nothing and are one of those who typically only heard of 'Operation Paperclip' where they used some 'harmless scientist' like Werner Von Braun, etc...
Who was not only a member of the nazi party but an SS member.So nazi whitewasher, look at the links and explain why they evacuated an entire SS-Galizien Division from ukraine?
The ones who murdered 40000 jews in 2 days at Babi Yar and put 4000 antifascist civilians in a mine shaft and then blew up the entrance leaving them to die horribly?Or why save warcriminals and let them live their lives in S-America?
Nobody is harmless - regardless of philosophy or origins - particularly when they work for the military.
look at the links and explain why they evacuated an entire SS-Galizien Division from ukraine?
Seems that your mind is made up, why don't you elaborate.
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Aren't you the genocide denialist?
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The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.
The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.
The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.
The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.
Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.
Just when I feel like dystopian news can't really disturb me anymore...
Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all...
How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:
A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target's family, if not everyone in the apartment building.
Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.
Jesus they killed everyone in the apartment complex including their kids how is this not a war crime?!?
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Nobody is harmless - regardless of philosophy or origins - particularly when they work for the military.
look at the links and explain why they evacuated an entire SS-Galizien Division from ukraine?
Seems that your mind is made up, why don't you elaborate.
"Seems that your mind is made up"
I show facts and know that the US/UK were/are supporters of fascism since it's the ultimate state of capitalism.
No need to elaborate, maybe look some things up since you clearly don't know much about it.And "Nobody is harmless - regardless of philosophy or origins - particularly when they work for the military."
Sigh, you even misinterpreted that and ignored the punctuation.I'm not a kindergarten teacher so not wasting more time on you,
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Why would anyone do this? Why wouldn't the normal legal process supported by all the rest of the rich bozos stop the one Uber rich psycho.
Why would anyone not notice a million terminators being made before they were unleashed?
I believe they were sarcastic, their name is listed as worldsdumbestman
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Jesus they killed everyone in the apartment complex including their kids how is this not a war crime?!?
Under the rules of war, no. The rules of war does not consider civilians casualties a crime if they happen while targeting military or military support, like weapons manufacturing.
If it were, then you could just fire missiles at your enemies from the tops of apartment buildings and they couldn't do anything about it. Yeah Hamas did do that and did make claims of war crimes whenever they got hit, but not actually a war crime. Because if it were it would encourage every military in the world to use human shields and every war becomes as horrible as the war in Gaza.
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It's confirmed. As is Israel funding Hamas.
I never saw how that played out. I've seen articles that Israel escorted Quatars donations/aid/whatever you want to call it into Gaza in cash, but where was the link that it was their money as well
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Wait these genocidal idiots really called it "Operation Narnia"?
wtf
vomits on ground
This would be disgusting if it was just a normal act of war, of killing soldiers and calling it a cute name like this to disguise how any war is a tragedy, but there is a much more serious red flag here about Israel and Israeli society, this shows a blatant disregard for the humanity of these SCIENTISTS by assassinating them and making a joke out of it about sending them to dream land. Not only is this murder, the motive is a blatant lie, Iran was not developing a nuclear weapon that is undeniable and unarguable based on the overwhelming evidence.
If you still think that Israel and the US aren't coming for science, freedom of thought and peace in general you are a fool. I live in the heart of this dying empire, the US, and let me tell you, they are coming for you if you are a scientist, run or fight, either is fine but pick one soon before it is too late.
Meanwhile Iran is always promising to ethnically cleanse Jews from the Middle East constantly chanting "death to Israel" and they call what they do "Operation True Promise" when targeting civilian population centers while saying to Israeli civilians "Either you must choose 'gradual death' in hellish life in shelters or save your lives from the 24-hour missile rain and flee as soon as possible from the lands usurped by your ancestors, so that you may survive." I guess that's a sign of a healthy society?
There's also Operation Rising Lion. Iran's flag used to have a Lion on it. Israel doesn't seem to want to destroy Iran unlike Iran's "True Promise" to wipe Israel off the map. But you can take "Rising Lion" to mean they want Iran to rise from being a country run by authoritarian religious nutjobs.
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Then how are they a threat?
Donald Trump is an incompetent idiot. Doesn't mean he's not a threat to anyone.
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Meanwhile Iran is always promising to ethnically cleanse Jews from the Middle East constantly chanting "death to Israel" and they call what they do "Operation True Promise" when targeting civilian population centers while saying to Israeli civilians "Either you must choose 'gradual death' in hellish life in shelters or save your lives from the 24-hour missile rain and flee as soon as possible from the lands usurped by your ancestors, so that you may survive." I guess that's a sign of a healthy society?
There's also Operation Rising Lion. Iran's flag used to have a Lion on it. Israel doesn't seem to want to destroy Iran unlike Iran's "True Promise" to wipe Israel off the map. But you can take "Rising Lion" to mean they want Iran to rise from being a country run by authoritarian religious nutjobs.
These are some really wild and generalizing claims about Iran and Iranian people and honestly you should be ashamed of yourself.
As someone on the left in the US I want to make it clear I think you are behaving in a pathetic way and yet I would never draw conclusions about Israelis or Israel the way you just casually did about Iranians even though Israel is committing a Genocide Of Palestinians. There are many Iranians with a wide variety of views on Israel, but no.. they do not desire a genocide of Israelis the way Israelis desire a genocide of Palestinians that is the ugly truth and yet even as I perceive it I know there is nothing inherent to Israelis that makes them incapable of seeing the humanity of Palestinians because I know all too well how easy it is to fall into the same awful mindset as someone from the US.
This is ALL a choice about how we flatten other groups into simple narratives. The most important thing about leftism to me is never forgetting that.
I come from a war-like society, I can respect the call to war when it is done out of a genuine desire to defend what you hold dear, Israel's call to war is not a call to war it is a call to genocide and it reimagines the atrocities of US colonization reflected and reanimated into a modern middle eastern conflict. I will not stand for it, I will resist the dehumanization of all people, Iranians, Palestinians, Israelis, Muslisms, Jews... we are people alike.
Also there is NO evidence that Iran has been pursuing producing a nuclear weapon for.. decades?
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If that's your metric, then I think Israel meets it. Iran has sponsored and directed non-state actors in Israel. These include both Hamas and Hezbollah. Additionally, Houthi militants have targeted Israeli civilian shipping.
So Israel subjugates, kicks people from their homes, and guns them down en mass at peaceful protests for years. Then Hamas lashes back out in what we call a terrorist attack. Then Israel uses it as a reason to further their subjugation and commit genocide. The Houthis say they will shoot at any countrys ships who is trading with Israel unless they stop their massacre. And you're saying that it would have been a better response for Iran to just bomb Israel without notice. Maybe you're right. Most of the world should have done something to stop what Israel was doing, but most of it was about putting pressure on the U.S. to say this isn't worth us spending money on, and convince us to tell Israel to stop or we'd cut aid and sanction them. If Iran attacked in defense of the Palestinians, Israel would once again have made it out that they were somehow the victim. They aren't. The only reason the "2 state solution" never came to be is because Israel made sure it would never happen.
