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Operation Narnia: Iran’s nuclear scientists reportedly killed simultaneously using special weapon

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  • They are flying jets, using drones, and even small explosives. The homes of these scientists were severely damaged. The richest countries of the world are backing Israel.

    Is this just Israel putting out propaganda? These scientists thought they were safe at home. Sinister! Super secret weapon that blows up apartment buildings. Sounds revolutionary!

    As usual this is teenage boy logic. They are posing with their guns as recruitment propaganda. No it’s a super secret magic cool gun from god you haven’t even heard of it because it’s so futuristic and we’re cool so not at all evil, right

  • The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.

    The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.

    The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.

    The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.

    Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

    Just when I feel like dystopian news can't really disturb me anymore...

    Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all...

    How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:

    A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target's family, if not everyone in the apartment building.

    Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.

    The weapon: 💣

  • They're an Islamic Republic. That puts a certain kind of upper limit to their intelligence, not to mention morality and ethics.

    As opposed to the upper limit of morality and ethics of those who are carrying out the unprovoked attacks?

  • Then how are they a threat?

    I don't know how much of a threat they are, but incompetence and ability to harm are two different things

  • The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.

    The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.

    The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.

    The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.

    Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

    Just when I feel like dystopian news can't really disturb me anymore...

    Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all...

    How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:

    A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target's family, if not everyone in the apartment building.

    Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.

    Let me fix the headline - Israel commits more state sponsored terrorist attacks in neighbouring countries.

  • It's like that saying goes: "The law is the same for everyone, neither the king nor the beggar may sleep under a bridge."

    That's BS. The king would never need to sleep under a bridge and if he chose to the police would be there to kick out the homeless people and make sure the king is safe for the night.

  • As opposed to the upper limit of morality and ethics of those who are carrying out the unprovoked attacks?

  • The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.

    The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.

    The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.

    The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.

    Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

    Just when I feel like dystopian news can't really disturb me anymore...

    Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all...

    How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:

    A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target's family, if not everyone in the apartment building.

    Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.

    The only difference between Israel and a terrorist organization is PR and budget.

  • There's a rules-based international order. We make the rules, and guess who gives the orders.

    So why is Vladimir Putin not in Hague?

  • One weird thing I noticed is the children inheriting the welth also tend to be psycho. Perhaps having everything you need destroys empathy?

    Does that imply that we should avoid getting people everything they need?

  • So Netanyahu let close to 1200 Israelis die of which 736 were civilians? Are any Israelis condemning him for that?

    So Netanyahu let close to 1200 Israelis die of which 736 were civilians?

    I don't think any of those articles claims that Netanyahu let these specific attacks happen, so I think your conclusion is pretty wild. There was some pieces of intelligence about a possible attack. Do you know how many similar pieces of intelligence they have and deal with every day?

  • They're an Islamic Republic. That puts a certain kind of upper limit to their intelligence, not to mention morality and ethics.

    one racist statement to gaslight the forum

    no further replies

    "the troll left his calling card"

    "it says pussy"

  • jeez you're a racist scumbag POS.

    It's not racist to say that a theocracy scares a lot of smart people away. I know multiple Iranian families who all fled Iran after 1979 and came to Europe. All highly educated, all very opposed to the Islamic Republic that ruined their country.

    Here, the effect is notable enough to have its own Wiki article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_capital_flight_from_Iran

  • one racist statement to gaslight the forum

    no further replies

    "the troll left his calling card"

    "it says pussy"

    What do you mean, "no further replies"? Are you referring to the toxic people I blocked?

    Are you one of them?

  • Oh are they also bombing refugees that they themselves created? My goodness, someone should stop that!

    Humans have rights, not states, and Israel's existence as an apartheid state is mutually exclusive with the rights of the humans living there.

  • Yeah, seems like the lesson is build nukes at all costs, as it's the only safeguard against attack.

    Also see Libya's nuclear program.

  • Please understand that I'm not some liberal, and I'm open to your perspective. I'm not being argumentative, I'm just asking for a source. I'm interested in finding out more about the Nuremberg trials, and typically google suggests libbed up shit, so I'm asking you specifically to help me out.

    I understand, and it's good that you want to find out stuff.
    I'll gladly try to help.

    I think it's important not to focus on Nuremberg but understand the purpose of it in the big picture about WW2.
    Like I said, the Nuremberg trials where a show trial.
    To say to the world: 'look here, justice has been done and the bad nazis are punished, we can move on now'.
    They made an example of those on trial and the world could enjoy watching a few of them hang.

    I'll post some links to what is swept under the carpet and never taught in schools, the uncomfortable truth that US/UK/Eu capitalists had no problem with fascism and helped it survive.
    That they went to great lengths to save awful warcriminals and made sure other nazis remained in power in Europe.

    https://ebeggin.substack.com/p/ratlines-nato-and-the-fourth-reich
    https://www.businessinsider.com/former-nazi-officials-in-germany-post-world-war-ii-government-2016-10?r=US&IR=T
    https://www.dispropaganda.com/single-post/2019/04/04/natos-secret-nazi-past
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB_Gs-0dhOo

    The support for fascists continued post war too:

    Covertly, as for example in Project Aerodynamic

    But even openly, as they saw no problem in accepting clear fascist states like Spain (Franco), Portugal (Salazar) or Greece into NATO.

  • It's not racist to say that a theocracy scares a lot of smart people away. I know multiple Iranian families who all fled Iran after 1979 and came to Europe. All highly educated, all very opposed to the Islamic Republic that ruined their country.

    Here, the effect is notable enough to have its own Wiki article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_capital_flight_from_Iran

    Wikipedia sucks ass.

    And 1979? LOL
    When they removed the US installed shah regime.
    The Iranian equivalent of Cuban gusanos.

    The US/UK ruined their country when these vultures overthrew the democratic Mossadeq regime to steal their oil as always.
    And you know it.
    Iranians are highly educated now,
    They produce as many engineering graduates annually as the United States.
    70% of them are WOMEN.
    So suck on that and stick to playing your games kid.

  • The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.

    The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.

    The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.

    The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.

    Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

    Just when I feel like dystopian news can't really disturb me anymore...

    Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all...

    How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:

    A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target's family, if not everyone in the apartment building.

    Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.

    Wait these genocidal idiots really called it "Operation Narnia"?

    wtf

    vomits on ground

    This would be disgusting if it was just a normal act of war, of killing soldiers and calling it a cute name like this to disguise how any war is a tragedy, but there is a much more serious red flag here about Israel and Israeli society, this shows a blatant disregard for the humanity of these SCIENTISTS by assassinating them and making a joke out of it about sending them to dream land. Not only is this murder, the motive is a blatant lie, Iran was not developing a nuclear weapon that is undeniable and unarguable based on the overwhelming evidence.

    If you still think that Israel and the US aren't coming for science, freedom of thought and peace in general you are a fool. I live in the heart of this dying empire, the US, and let me tell you, they are coming for you if you are a scientist, run or fight, either is fine but pick one soon before it is too late.

  • You didn't check any of the links I gave.
    No surprise then you know nothing and are one of those who typically only heard of 'Operation Paperclip' where they used some 'harmless scientist' like Werner Von Braun, etc...
    Who was not only a member of the nazi party but an SS member.

    So nazi whitewasher, look at the links and explain why they evacuated an entire SS-Galizien Division from ukraine?
    The ones who murdered 40000 jews in 2 days at Babi Yar and put 4000 antifascist civilians in a mine shaft and then blew up the entrance leaving them to die horribly?

    Or why save warcriminals and let them live their lives in S-America?

    Nobody is harmless - regardless of philosophy or origins - particularly when they work for the military.

    look at the links and explain why they evacuated an entire SS-Galizien Division from ukraine?

    Seems that your mind is made up, why don't you elaborate.

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    It is common in the military to give commissioned rank to certain positions for the higher pay grade. The fast tracking takes away from the belief everyone serving with you went through (roughly) the same basic training as you.
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    At least the AI doesn't mean to lie to you, unlike the intention of the rest of the site.
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    I'll gladly give you a reason. I'm actually happy to articulate my stance on this, considering how much I tend to care about digital rights. Services that host files should not be held responsible for what users upload, unless: The service explicitly caters to illegal content by definition or practice (i.e. the if the website is literally titled uploadyourcsamhere[.]com then it's safe to assume they deliberately want to host illegal content) The service has a very easy mechanism to remove illegal content, either when asked, or through simple monitoring systems, but chooses not to do so (catbox does this, and quite quickly too) Because holding services responsible creates a whole host of negative effects. Here's some examples: Someone starts a CDN and some users upload CSAM. The creator of the CDN goes to jail now. Nobody ever wants to create a CDN because of the legal risk, and thus the only providers of CDNs become shady, expensive, anonymously-run services with no compliance mechanisms. You run a site that hosts images, and someone decides they want to harm you. They upload CSAM, then report the site to law enforcement. You go to jail. Anybody in the future who wants to run an image sharing site must now self-censor to try and not upset any human being that could be willing to harm them via their site. A social media site is hosting the posts and content of users. In order to be compliant and not go to jail, they must engage in extremely strict filtering, otherwise even one mistake could land them in jail. All users of the site are prohibited from posting any NSFW or even suggestive content, (including newsworthy media, such as an image of bodies in a warzone) and any violation leads to an instant ban, because any of those things could lead to a chance of actually illegal content being attached. This isn't just my opinion either. Digital rights organizations such as the Electronic Frontier Foundation have talked at length about similar policies before. To quote them: "When social media platforms adopt heavy-handed moderation policies, the unintended consequences can be hard to predict. For example, Twitter’s policies on sexual material have resulted in posts on sexual health and condoms being taken down. YouTube’s bans on violent content have resulted in journalism on the Syrian war being pulled from the site. It can be tempting to attempt to “fix” certain attitudes and behaviors online by placing increased restrictions on users’ speech, but in practice, web platforms have had more success at silencing innocent people than at making online communities healthier." Now, to address the rest of your comment, since I don't just want to focus on the beginning: I think you have to actively moderate what is uploaded Catbox does, and as previously mentioned, often at a much higher rate than other services, and at a comparable rate to many services that have millions, if not billions of dollars in annual profits that could otherwise be spent on further moderation. there has to be swifter and stricter punishment for those that do upload things that are against TOS and/or illegal. The problem isn't necessarily the speed at which people can be reported and punished, but rather that the internet is fundamentally harder to track people on than real life. It's easy for cops to sit around at a spot they know someone will be physically distributing illegal content at in real life, but digitally, even if you can see the feed of all the information passing through the service, a VPN or Tor connection will anonymize your IP address in a manner that most police departments won't be able to track, and most three-letter agencies will simply have a relatively low success rate with. There's no good solution to this problem of identifying perpetrators, which is why platforms often focus on moderation over legal enforcement actions against users so frequently. It accomplishes the goal of preventing and removing the content without having to, for example, require every single user of the internet to scan an ID (and also magically prevent people from just stealing other people's access tokens and impersonating their ID) I do agree, however, that we should probably provide larger amounts of funding, training, and resources, to divisions who's sole goal is to go after online distribution of various illegal content, primarily that which harms children, because it's certainly still an issue of there being too many reports to go through, even if many of them will still lead to dead ends. I hope that explains why making file hosting services liable for user uploaded content probably isn't the best strategy. I hate to see people with good intentions support ideas that sound good in practice, but in the end just cause more untold harms, and I hope you can understand why I believe this to be the case.
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