Operation Narnia: Iran’s nuclear scientists reportedly killed simultaneously using special weapon
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I have always been amazed that countries are allowed to get away with this. You would expect that a country that does this would have their leadership rounded up by an international strike force instantly and hauled to Hague.
You mean like when Gerald Bull was killed? Surely an accident.
Which is why I am sitting in disbelief that Iran could be so monumentally stupid.
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I'm not defending cluster bombs, I'm saying it's bullshit to kill multiple families in an apartment building and pretend you're the fucking good guys because you have more sophisticated tech. Especially when there was no reason to attack Iran like this in the first place.
He's been accusing Iran of being weeks away from having nuclear weapons since 2012. He almost gets voted out of leadership and when he doesn't he jumps on the opportunity to start bombing Iran and taking out these scientists (and everyone around them) who he had been targeting since November.
He and Trump are going to get us all killed to gain money and power. Fuck them and fuck anyone that wants to keep defending this ignorant bullshit, as if people can't see clear as day, exactly what these sacks of shit are doing.
Hey, friend, take a breath. Listen... This isn't how we all die. Unless you live in Iran I guess, and then maybe, depending how it plays out - but even that is not at all a sure thing. I know this is pretty bad, but you can't burn yourself out on this one
This isn't world war III. It's just another bad thing. China has signaled nothing on this and Russia is in no position to do anything. Europe has been quiet, the other Gulf states have been quiet... This could turn into another forever war, but this isn't going to spark a powder keg.
But yeah, Iran has clearly been trying to return to the fold for years now, and netanyahu has started a second conflict to hold into power. It's very obvious who the aggressors are
And yes, if you use targeted means to hit civilians and their family, obviously that's a war crime.
But war crimes don't cancel out. There's no place for whataboutism when real human lives are being snuffed out in their homes. We make a list, and hopefully soon the fascists will fall and all the war criminals will stand trial
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This why they are so obsessed with AI. When AI can do whatever they want, the rest of us will be exterminated like pests.
I think wage slaves will be cheaper than robots for a while longer
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Why not?
Daily on Lemmy there are thousands of calls to murder X or Y person who doesn't agree with collectivist ideology.
Why would it be different for them?
Are they in the room with us right now?
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It's not normal. It's ok until the majority of America accepts what can really be done with that database Trump is having Palantir build.
Who's Palantir? I sort if live under a rock. Yes I looked it up. I'm asking for the general scoop.
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The rich are only rich because the money they possess can be exchanged directly or indirectly for people's labour. Without it, the money is valueless and the rich cease to be. It's also one reason why labour strikes are so effective and the rich have had to create militias to prevent them.
You miss the point. If they get AI to the point where it can replicate our work "well enough", it won't need to even be intelligent or invent new things.
They won't need to care about money, if they get to the point where AI produces and maintains everything for them.
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The ratio of poor to ultra wealthy is far greater than a million to one. Other than that, the only practical reason they have for not doing it is that they still need human labor for most of what they do. That isn't going to change anytime soon, despite AI. However, they don't need their labor force to be free or happy, which is why the US is on the cusp of a fascist takeover.
The rule of law has largely stopped mattering to the ultra wealthy. It may occasionally inconvenience them, but they know it will never affect them in any personal way.
Not all of the ultra wealthy are socipaths. Unfortunately, terminal-stage capitalism does a surprisingly good job of selecting for sociopathy at the very top of the hierarchy. Becoming that rich requires both a strong belief that you deserve it and a disregard for how acquiring it harms others.
One weird thing I noticed is the children inheriting the welth also tend to be psycho. Perhaps having everything you need destroys empathy?
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It's not normal. It's ok until the majority of America accepts what can really be done with that database Trump is having Palantir build.
i think the military has been using thiels palintir for at least 10 years already. TRump just made it more obvious, because hes a loudmouth. thiel loved to stay out of the spotlight of the news for many reasons. everytime he was in the news, its never is good for him.
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Then who would they lord over and whose hard work would they make their money off of, on the other hand using these threats to bring back slavery feels like the scarier future to me
They can have a large zoo
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Who's Palantir? I sort if live under a rock. Yes I looked it up. I'm asking for the general scoop.
Palantir, as you know is the all seeing stone in LOTR, THiel is obsessed with LOTR for the wrong reasons, he named several companies after lotr themes: MITHIRL, andurl, lembas,,,etc. Peter thiel is the funds behind AI tech that palantir uses, which is used by the military and now by Some LEO. basically a spying software with AI.
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I wonder how many civilians Israel killed in the process. It's probably a lot more than 0.
or allowing israeli settlers to forcibly take palestinian homes, i saw all those videos onr eddit, where they were rushing tino areas to sieze homes.
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Why not?
Daily on Lemmy there are thousands of calls to murder X or Y person who doesn't agree with collectivist ideology.
Why would it be different for them?
Because lemmings that try doing it would be pulled in front of a judge if they went public about it afterwards. It would a) just be a single person that would b) face consequences for that action.
Israel on the other hand is a state level actor killing civilians in another jurisdiction. I know it's just another war crime between many others at this point, but it bears noticing just how little the consequences have become
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Who is someone? What is the proof of the murder?
I need names and addresses! For... Reasons unrelated to any lethal plans
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So Netanyahu let close to 1200 Israelis die of which 736 were civilians? Are any Israelis condemning him for that?
Yes. There are a lot of protests against him. It's just not enough.
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You miss the point. If they get AI to the point where it can replicate our work "well enough", it won't need to even be intelligent or invent new things.
They won't need to care about money, if they get to the point where AI produces and maintains everything for them.
I understand completely what you're saying and I have considered it. I just don't believe we'll ever get to the point where a fully automated system produces all necessary goods for high standard of living without human labour required. Worse, even if we get to the point where significantly less labour is required, history informs us that the unemployed would very likely revolt and take power through violence. Especially because we won't be able to go from the status quo to a state where we neutralize revolting people automatically in a short enough time frame for people to be caught by surprise and unable to revolt. Not to mention that a part of such a revolt would likely include the stoppage of work by people who work on, maintain and operate the automation. I think the most likely scenario as we go down this path would be the formation of militant labour unions that take power back from the rich and steer automation into producing for the majority. Whether we go away from capitalism through this change or reshape it, I don't have a guess.
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This why they are so obsessed with AI. When AI can do whatever they want, the rest of us will be exterminated like pests.
Maybe just save yourself the trouble and get a heads up you know
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One weird thing I noticed is the children inheriting the welth also tend to be psycho. Perhaps having everything you need destroys empathy?
Yeah that's why collectivists worldwide always strive to think for you what you need, and taking the standard of living to the lowest possible level, that's way no one can have have what they need, except obviously the ones in power, ideologically speaking
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I need names and addresses! For... Reasons unrelated to any lethal plans
Sir we all know that if you just want to post fake bullshit you can just say so, it's not illegal
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Are they in the room with us right now?
Sure, just check the modlog, there is thousands of murder calls and violent action calls erased everyday. That's the ones that get reported.
I feel comfortable saying no one here is surprised in the slightest by the level of violent discourse shared in here on Lemmy
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Sir we all know that if you just want to post fake bullshit you can just say so, it's not illegal
I didn't post anything besides a snarky comment below yours
