(Technology Connections) Closed captions on DVDs are getting left behind [33:46]
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After watching his video it feels like it was already left behind.
What is the "it" that you think got left behind?
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It really depends on the ripper. I'd say 9/10 times captions are included on most of my downloads.
It's that 10th one that is super annoying and I have to wait for jellyfin to download them one by one from open subtitles.
As a ripper myself for one of the internal groups, both DVDs and Blu rays have this annoying thing where they include the subtitles in image format (PGS for BRs, forgot what the DVD one was). It’s a headache for the rippers and encoders because we then need to OCR the subtitles for the encodes we put out there. Sometimes if we get lucky the movie is on a streaming platform making this process obsolete as we grab the .vtt files from the streaming service and sync it with the BR we’re making (as well as transforming it to .srt) . My only assumption as to why MPAA decided on image format subs for both DVDs and BRs is because it makes it easy to deal with different languages and the likes, you just display a static image and fk everything else. But for the people putting out quality releases if we ship PGS that means we’re just doing a bad job.
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DVDs have already been left behind so not much of an issue.
You would be surprised but in the US DVDs are still king. They sell far better than regular BluRays and even better than 4K UHD BRs. So saying it’s dead is difficult.
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As a ripper myself for one of the internal groups, both DVDs and Blu rays have this annoying thing where they include the subtitles in image format (PGS for BRs, forgot what the DVD one was). It’s a headache for the rippers and encoders because we then need to OCR the subtitles for the encodes we put out there. Sometimes if we get lucky the movie is on a streaming platform making this process obsolete as we grab the .vtt files from the streaming service and sync it with the BR we’re making (as well as transforming it to .srt) . My only assumption as to why MPAA decided on image format subs for both DVDs and BRs is because it makes it easy to deal with different languages and the likes, you just display a static image and fk everything else. But for the people putting out quality releases if we ship PGS that means we’re just doing a bad job.
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I rip for my personal collection/data hoarding and was surprised to learn how much of a pain PSG subs are. I figured I just had HandBrake configured wrong until I started looking into it.
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I rip for my personal collection/data hoarding and was surprised to learn how much of a pain PSG subs are. I figured I just had HandBrake configured wrong until I started looking into it.
Yeah, really makes you wonder if it’s by design as some sort of evil anti piracy measure.
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kind of.
He mostly left because of bullying. Just posting video updates and rare posts.
How is this bullying not moderated? That just seems weird. I've always felt Mastodon kinda fails at moderation in this aspect. He should go to Lemmy instead.
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Someone didn’t watch the video
Correct, because anything related to DVDs as the title suggests is wholly irrelevant in 2025.
Watching now - I’m in PAL land so line 21 captions were never a thing for me.
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What is the "it" that you think got left behind?
Honestly, physical media formats in general have been left behind decades ago at this point.
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You would be surprised but in the US DVDs are still king. They sell far better than regular BluRays and even better than 4K UHD BRs. So saying it’s dead is difficult.
One format selling better than another dead format is hardly a useful data point.
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As a ripper myself for one of the internal groups, both DVDs and Blu rays have this annoying thing where they include the subtitles in image format (PGS for BRs, forgot what the DVD one was). It’s a headache for the rippers and encoders because we then need to OCR the subtitles for the encodes we put out there. Sometimes if we get lucky the movie is on a streaming platform making this process obsolete as we grab the .vtt files from the streaming service and sync it with the BR we’re making (as well as transforming it to .srt) . My only assumption as to why MPAA decided on image format subs for both DVDs and BRs is because it makes it easy to deal with different languages and the likes, you just display a static image and fk everything else. But for the people putting out quality releases if we ship PGS that means we’re just doing a bad job.
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Unsung hero right here.
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All my DVD's stopped working when I moved to another country anyway.
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These videos are really interesting but sometimes I really wish they were more concise. I know its his whole thing but damn I want the knowledge.
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As a ripper myself for one of the internal groups, both DVDs and Blu rays have this annoying thing where they include the subtitles in image format (PGS for BRs, forgot what the DVD one was). It’s a headache for the rippers and encoders because we then need to OCR the subtitles for the encodes we put out there. Sometimes if we get lucky the movie is on a streaming platform making this process obsolete as we grab the .vtt files from the streaming service and sync it with the BR we’re making (as well as transforming it to .srt) . My only assumption as to why MPAA decided on image format subs for both DVDs and BRs is because it makes it easy to deal with different languages and the likes, you just display a static image and fk everything else. But for the people putting out quality releases if we ship PGS that means we’re just doing a bad job.
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I spent my college days ripping and manually correcting OCR'd subtitles for more movies than I care to count in the early 2000s. Do you mean to say I could have monetized it?
Also, fuck lower case Ls and upper case is
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You would be surprised but in the US DVDs are still king. They sell far better than regular BluRays and even better than 4K UHD BRs. So saying it’s dead is difficult.
Blu-ray is dead too. It died even quicker. Both of their sales are circling the drain.
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These videos are really interesting but sometimes I really wish they were more concise. I know its his whole thing but damn I want the knowledge.
Yeh that half hour video could have been 5 minutes. Never seen him before but enjoyed his style and how he explains things, but it felt like he said the same thing over and over again 6 times.
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It really depends on the ripper. I'd say 9/10 times captions are included on most of my downloads.
It's that 10th one that is super annoying and I have to wait for jellyfin to download them one by one from open subtitles.
Have a look at Bazarr.
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How is this bullying not moderated? That just seems weird. I've always felt Mastodon kinda fails at moderation in this aspect. He should go to Lemmy instead.
Lemmy is bully central if you don’t just go with the echo chamber lol
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There's two parts to this; the dvd player and the video player in the TV (or if it's a HDMI player, in the players firmware).
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DVDs are getting left behind.
DVD's are getting old. Rate of degradation due to manufacturing inperfections is about 1:10 in public library.
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I'm surprised VLC fares that badly with CCs encoded this way. Usually it's pretty good. I'm also now wondering if ffmpeg also shares the same problem
