Your TV Is Spying On You
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Solar systems have mobile modems in them to phone home
Cars have mobile modems in them to phone home
Maybe some TVs do too
Nothing a jumper wire can’t fix
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How does that help me though?
I think they are inviting you over to their place to watch some (dumb) TV?
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You sit down to relax, put on your favorite show, and settle in for a night of binge-watching. But while you’re watching your TV… your TV is watching you.
Smart TVs take constant snapshots of everything you watch. Sometimes hundreds of snapshots a second.
Welcome to the future of "entertainment."
Your TV Is Spying On You — Ludlow Institute
Your TV is taking snapshots of everything you watch.
Ludlow Institute (www.ludlowinstitute.org)
I’ve never allowed my TV to have an active route to the internet since I bought it in 2019, it’s exclusively fed over HDMI by gaming consoles and an Apple TV.
The thing is, HDMI 1.4 added HEC, so what’s to prevent media players from serving as an Ethernet switch and providing an internet connection to TVs.
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Solar systems have mobile modems in them to phone home
Cars have mobile modems in them to phone home
Maybe some TVs do too
TVs are way too inexpensive for manufacturers to pay for modems, service fees, and bandwidth fees to collect this kind of data. They'd spend more paying for that cell connection over the lifetime of the TV than you paid for the product in the first place. Solar systems and cars that cost many tens of thousands of dollars are a completely different ballpark compared to a $500-1000 TV.
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You sit down to relax, put on your favorite show, and settle in for a night of binge-watching. But while you’re watching your TV… your TV is watching you.
Smart TVs take constant snapshots of everything you watch. Sometimes hundreds of snapshots a second.
Welcome to the future of "entertainment."
Your TV Is Spying On You — Ludlow Institute
Your TV is taking snapshots of everything you watch.
Ludlow Institute (www.ludlowinstitute.org)
My TV is not a smart TV, it's not spying on me.
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I think they are inviting you over to their place to watch some (dumb) TV?
Finally, some good TV
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Is it adding to discussions or just posturing? Much like heavy's comment was about their issues, Lost_My_Mind's was also about their own situation. Why is the latter acceptable and the former not?
My assumption is not because it promotes discussion, but because it's something that's more people emotionally agree with.
Yeah it contributes to the discussion with the simple solution on how not to be spied on by your TV, in an admittedly patronising way.
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My TV is not a smart TV, it's not spying on me.
Well, maybe a Hisense or a cheap soundbar might have a listening device, but they'll be hard pressed to phone home.
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You can run pihole on Ubuntu.
Point all your network traffic on it and you can still use your TV without your tv using you.
You probably can use your tv without it using you, or probably not.
I, too, use pihole. But it does not prevent your data from leaking 100% and never will.
And it’s easily circumvented by using other DNS servers or even by connecting to hardcoded IPs. I dont know specifically about TVs, but some manufacturers do that.The only way to make sure that TV can never spy is to never connect it to the internet.
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You sit down to relax, put on your favorite show, and settle in for a night of binge-watching. But while you’re watching your TV… your TV is watching you.
Smart TVs take constant snapshots of everything you watch. Sometimes hundreds of snapshots a second.
Welcome to the future of "entertainment."
Your TV Is Spying On You — Ludlow Institute
Your TV is taking snapshots of everything you watch.
Ludlow Institute (www.ludlowinstitute.org)
Does anyone know if there's a domain blocklist for smart TV telemetry? If so, I could easily put it into my DNS server, like I already do for ads.
I'd like to continue using my streaming apps without resorting to yet another device. I have an HTPC that runs KODI but I think it'd be a pain to replace all of my streaming apps.
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Do you have pictures of these puppies? We need confirmation.
Oh yeah, for sure.
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Does anyone know if there's a domain blocklist for smart TV telemetry? If so, I could easily put it into my DNS server, like I already do for ads.
I'd like to continue using my streaming apps without resorting to yet another device. I have an HTPC that runs KODI but I think it'd be a pain to replace all of my streaming apps.
Turn the TV on and keep an eye on the logs. Many of the common blocklist already block that kind of telemetry.
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TVs are way too inexpensive for manufacturers to pay for modems, service fees, and bandwidth fees to collect this kind of data. They'd spend more paying for that cell connection over the lifetime of the TV than you paid for the product in the first place. Solar systems and cars that cost many tens of thousands of dollars are a completely different ballpark compared to a $500-1000 TV.
Compromised solar systems are in the realm of $500-$1000 for the inverter
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You sit down to relax, put on your favorite show, and settle in for a night of binge-watching. But while you’re watching your TV… your TV is watching you.
Smart TVs take constant snapshots of everything you watch. Sometimes hundreds of snapshots a second.
Welcome to the future of "entertainment."
Your TV Is Spying On You — Ludlow Institute
Your TV is taking snapshots of everything you watch.
Ludlow Institute (www.ludlowinstitute.org)
What 4K TV can I buy that doesn’t do this guys help? Or should I stick to monitors???
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I’ve never allowed my TV to have an active route to the internet since I bought it in 2019, it’s exclusively fed over HDMI by gaming consoles and an Apple TV.
The thing is, HDMI 1.4 added HEC, so what’s to prevent media players from serving as an Ethernet switch and providing an internet connection to TVs.
HEC feature enables IP-based applications over HDMI and provides a bidirectional Ethernet communication at 100 Mbit/s
I think the bandwidth is too slow for HD/4K Streams.
I am sure the 100 Mbit/s must also be theoretical maximum, i would be impressed if practical cables supports even half the orignal specs
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My TV is not a smart TV, it's not spying on me.
How old is it ? Which one did you buy
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Stupid TVs FTW. If you can’t buy them stupid, give them a WiFi lobotomy.
There has to be a youtube guide to giving WiFi Lobotomy
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HEC feature enables IP-based applications over HDMI and provides a bidirectional Ethernet communication at 100 Mbit/s
I think the bandwidth is too slow for HD/4K Streams.
I am sure the 100 Mbit/s must also be theoretical maximum, i would be impressed if practical cables supports even half the orignal specs
for streaming, yeah, for tracking its plenty
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HEC feature enables IP-based applications over HDMI and provides a bidirectional Ethernet communication at 100 Mbit/s
I think the bandwidth is too slow for HD/4K Streams.
I am sure the 100 Mbit/s must also be theoretical maximum, i would be impressed if practical cables supports even half the orignal specs
for streaming, yeah, for tracking its plenty
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What 4K TV can I buy that doesn’t do this guys help? Or should I stick to monitors???
I mean... Just don't hook the TV up to the internet. Don't join your WiFi network on the TV.
Kind of a simple solution.
