Google's plan to restrict sideloading on Android has a potential escape hatch for users
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Guess what!? Those are all Android too!
But I guess those don’t have Google Play or anything Google, they’re more like a limited Android.
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Yeah, if something like Obtanium needs to run on my desktop instead of my phone and I have to plug it in every once in a while, that's not the end of the world.
I think adb can also work over Wi-Fi, just like Android Studio can connect to the phone and build and install without plugging it.
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Okay but it's specifically software from outside the Play Store?
When I install software from the Arch User Repository I still just call it installing, even though it isn't through the standard path. Everywhere else, you don't make the distinction. For some reason on phones we've come to call it sideloading, even though the software is just software —it doesn't care where it came from.
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We hope that Google keeps its word and preserves ADB installation
lol, adb is the first loophole that will be closed.
I don’t know, even people here are already considering it a loss of the only way is through ADB, because it’s not practical for everyday usage. But it’s better than nothing.
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Thankfully, for those of us without the time for all that there are Linux phones such as this one I'm considering.
I’d love to play around with something like this, as a programmer myself, but unfortunately the cost is prohibitive in my country.
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I honestly think that this is just not going to happen. It's already a giant pain in the ass to install apps from anywhere else than Play Store. With Shizuku it got much, much better.
Huh? Downloading an apk and clicking open with -> package installer is nothing but straightforward.
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Huh? Downloading an apk and clicking open with -> package installer is nothing but straightforward.
It nags me a lot, sometimes downright blocks me from installing without adb shit. Samsung.
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When I install software from the Arch User Repository I still just call it installing, even though it isn't through the standard path. Everywhere else, you don't make the distinction. For some reason on phones we've come to call it sideloading, even though the software is just software —it doesn't care where it came from.
Because 99% of people are getting it from the same place...
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Probably because they want to target software that cracks theirs to avoid ads, like ReVanced.
Ding ding ding ding ding. It's so obvious, it's because Google wants to be in control and block apps it would rather not exist. Newpipe, FreeTube, Revanced and the like.
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The trouble is Google’s definition of malicious apps. Are adblockers malicious? How about alternative apps for YouTube? Based on the recent history, I don’t think you will be able to install those apps on the phone you purchased.
Yes, I agree. Google will use this to control the Android app ecosystem beyond the Play Store and I don't like it either
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Yes, I agree. Google will use this to control the Android app ecosystem beyond the Play Store and I don't like it either
You can sure as shit know that NewPipe and Smart Tube Next won't be getting a licence. Fuck Google so fucking hard.
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Huh? Downloading an apk and clicking open with -> package installer is nothing but straightforward.
This simply doesn't work anymore for all apps on my Pixel 8.
Many I installed manually just redirect to the Play store with the message it could harm your device and you should download from Play.
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It nags me a lot, sometimes downright blocks me from installing without adb shit. Samsung.
What kind of apps are you installing? I've never ever had any issue with installing APKs on Samsung, you just have to allow the app that triggered it to install APKs one time and every subsequent time, it just works.
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So any APK I download will just expire at some point in time that's probably really annoying to know, and then I have to dig through the internet again so I can install the app again?
If it's anything like how Windows does it, you would still be able to override it. It just gives you a scary warning and hides the option unless you click "more info" or something.
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This simply doesn't work anymore for all apps on my Pixel 8.
Many I installed manually just redirect to the Play store with the message it could harm your device and you should download from Play.
Pixel 8a on graphene here so I'm not getting this. Maybe on stock
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What kind of apps are you installing? I've never ever had any issue with installing APKs on Samsung, you just have to allow the app that triggered it to install APKs one time and every subsequent time, it just works.
In some regions, afaik, you just CANNOT install certain apps without adb, this in my experience includes: KDEConnect, Fdroid, Newpipe...etc. The list changes time to time.
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I honestly think that this is just not going to happen. It's already a giant pain in the ass to install apps from anywhere else than Play Store. With Shizuku it got much, much better.
You may want to re-evaluate how you're installing non-Play apps. I use F-droid all the time and never had anything even approach "inconvenient."
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You may want to re-evaluate how you're installing non-Play apps. I use F-droid all the time and never had anything even approach "inconvenient."
Like I said, Samsung does this crap in certain regions, specifically South Korea. I'm using Shizuku now and couldn't be happier.
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they want to improve thier AI and datamining capabilities.
What am I not seeing? How does this improve datamining capabilities?
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This is actually worse than integration in Play Protect which can be disabled very easily. Now you can only install unsigned apps via ADB which means just developers can do it.
