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  • I don't think so. I don't think it is blown out of proportion, I actually think it is that bad, and I also think that if you think you can just disable it and be done with it, you don't have any experience with microsoft products and services. they regularly reset privacy settings, both on windows, and yesterday I found that even in their android apps like the swiftkey keyboard.

    another example of this tendency, is that a few days ago I was helping a friend with computer problems who stuck on windows 7, and I have seen that microsoft yas gone out of its way to push an update or something that installed their edge browser, pinned it to the taskbar and automatically opened it on boot.

    I've never had that issue on Professional editions of Windows 10 or 11. Home edition? Maybe. But Pro lets you override almost anything you want with group policies.

  • I've never had that issue on Professional editions of Windows 10 or 11. Home edition? Maybe. But Pro lets you override almost anything you want with group policies.

    I also rely on group policies. they do get reverted. o&o shutup10 has a feature to detect it and point that out, and I see it almost every time I open it. I use it rarely per machine, but I use it on multiple machines and each does this.

    then sometimes the setting is just ignored. I was baffled when the policy to disable the start menu automatic bing search -which basically uploads all your local searches to microsoft bing - did not work, even after 2 reboots. I think it was this year, perhaps the last one

  • Ok, seriously, just use Linux. I know how it sounds, but I'd say a majority of people use a computer to use a web browser. Guess what? We browsers have always worked and been native with Linux.

    Problem is, it's not a passion for most people and they just want to buy something and get on the internet. While they exist, you can't exactly go to Best buy and buy a new computer running Linux.

    But really, if you have hardware that works well with it, it's a dream.

    I will when either Nvidia supports it fully, or AMD releases a GPU that can keep up in the ray tracing department.

    Also, HDR support in Linux needs to get a lot better. Like an order of magnitude better. Then and only then will I switch.

  • I also rely on group policies. they do get reverted. o&o shutup10 has a feature to detect it and point that out, and I see it almost every time I open it. I use it rarely per machine, but I use it on multiple machines and each does this.

    then sometimes the setting is just ignored. I was baffled when the policy to disable the start menu automatic bing search -which basically uploads all your local searches to microsoft bing - did not work, even after 2 reboots. I think it was this year, perhaps the last one

    Damn, that sucks. It's been forever since I set that one so I checked and it looks like I'm using the registry edit method for that particular one. My start menu has looked like this for as long as I can remember so I'm not sure what's keeping it from changing with updates. searching for anything not on my local system results in 'no results found'

    edit I am using OOSU10 but unless it has some auto-reset feature then it isn't what's keeping my changes in place through upgrades. I'm even on the beta channel for windows.

  • I've heard about that but haven't noticed it myself. It does sound annoying.

    Yup, and it's on what was a mid-line laptop from 3 years ago. Only just started recently.

    At home I use a thinkpad that I got 2nd hand 10 years back, and it feels like warp speed by comparison.

  • I also rely on group policies. they do get reverted. o&o shutup10 has a feature to detect it and point that out, and I see it almost every time I open it. I use it rarely per machine, but I use it on multiple machines and each does this.

    then sometimes the setting is just ignored. I was baffled when the policy to disable the start menu automatic bing search -which basically uploads all your local searches to microsoft bing - did not work, even after 2 reboots. I think it was this year, perhaps the last one

    I will say that I would absolutely be championing linux if not for relying way too much on RTX features For example, their inverse tone mapping (SDR-to-HDR) is far far superior to the Windows AutoHDR solution as long as you're willing to spend a bit of time tuning it for your display. That said, if anyone wants to do an equivalent trade for a freshly re-pasted 3080 10GB I might consider going AMD lol.

  • Ok, seriously, just use Linux. I know how it sounds, but I'd say a majority of people use a computer to use a web browser. Guess what? We browsers have always worked and been native with Linux.

    Problem is, it's not a passion for most people and they just want to buy something and get on the internet. While they exist, you can't exactly go to Best buy and buy a new computer running Linux.

    But really, if you have hardware that works well with it, it's a dream.

    So my dad has been using an ancient Atom laptop that ran Windows 10. It happened to finally fail a few months ago and I've been trying, unsuccessfully, to get Quicken Classic Deluxe running in Wine since then. I virtualized his laptop install and threw it on my mom's system through hyper-v and that's been getting him through the day but I would rather come up with a solution that doesn't involve using an offline VM just for running Quicken. For reference, the linux laptop I have is running fully up-to-date EndeavourOS (Arch). I tried a solution from winehq.org but it didn't seem to make any progress. Someone suggested that the repo version of Wine was incompatible and that I should build from AUR, which I tried as well, but gave up after about 3 hours of compiling on this 12th-gen mobile i7.

  • I will when either Nvidia supports it fully, or AMD releases a GPU that can keep up in the ray tracing department.

    Also, HDR support in Linux needs to get a lot better. Like an order of magnitude better. Then and only then will I switch.

    A friend of mine just installed CachyOS Desktop Edition (plasma) and I brought up the HDR calibration in windows, thinking that was something linux still didn't have. Turns out at least some DEs (i think thats a DE thing?) do have decent HDR support now. I still want RTX features tho.

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    Or . . at this point, if you don't have a very good reason to keep using windows, (eg: work, professional software unavailable on linux/through wine), just stop making concessions for windows and use Linux.

    This just reads as "here's a pill to make that stick up your ass hurt less" just pull it out ffs

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    Im so glad I finally made the jump to linux. For anyone still on the fence about it, do it. It's so easy to switch, I've been using Kubuntu for a few weeks now and I have had maybe one issue with playing games, and it was solved by changing the Steam compatibility layer version.

    When I switched, I installed a fresh (debloated) Windows instance on another SSD just in case. You know how many times I've used it? ONCE, and it was only be cause a buddy wanted me to try a game that had anticheat (I think Rocket League). Other than that I've had no reason to use it. There's a decent replacement for just about every Windows software out there, and if I ever come across a need for software I can't run on Linux, I'll just use the Windows instance for it. Other than that Microsoft can suck it. They're not getting any more of my info.

    Now if only I didn't just get a new Android phone, I'd swap over to a de-Googled phone....

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    Oh come on, you think it's not in the OS itself with no ability to disable it? AdGuard is not going to necessarily help the fundamental issue here.

  • I will when either Nvidia supports it fully, or AMD releases a GPU that can keep up in the ray tracing department.

    Also, HDR support in Linux needs to get a lot better. Like an order of magnitude better. Then and only then will I switch.

    Those seem like niche things to hold on to. A 5090 should work just fine under Linux, what feature do you use that isn't supported? Also a 9070 XT is capable of doing ray tracing. You don't always have to have the absolute most powerful card.

    I don't have an HDR monitor so can't say how well it works in Linux, but you can survive without HDR. Is a better lighting contrast that big of a deal?

  • Ok, seriously, just use Linux. I know how it sounds, but I'd say a majority of people use a computer to use a web browser. Guess what? We browsers have always worked and been native with Linux.

    Problem is, it's not a passion for most people and they just want to buy something and get on the internet. While they exist, you can't exactly go to Best buy and buy a new computer running Linux.

    But really, if you have hardware that works well with it, it's a dream.

    Funny thing is, on my laptop there's an issue with Linux and browsers. Any video or animation, even little animations, runs at like 3fps. This makes using a browser virtually impossible.

    Everything else works well, but that just doesn't make Linux an option for me right now. I tried a variety of browsers and distros. It's really frustrating. It's not even a bad laptop, Lenovo Legion 5 pro RTX3060.

  • Im so glad I finally made the jump to linux. For anyone still on the fence about it, do it. It's so easy to switch, I've been using Kubuntu for a few weeks now and I have had maybe one issue with playing games, and it was solved by changing the Steam compatibility layer version.

    When I switched, I installed a fresh (debloated) Windows instance on another SSD just in case. You know how many times I've used it? ONCE, and it was only be cause a buddy wanted me to try a game that had anticheat (I think Rocket League). Other than that I've had no reason to use it. There's a decent replacement for just about every Windows software out there, and if I ever come across a need for software I can't run on Linux, I'll just use the Windows instance for it. Other than that Microsoft can suck it. They're not getting any more of my info.

    Now if only I didn't just get a new Android phone, I'd swap over to a de-Googled phone....

    What phone model is it? You can probably unlock the bootloader and install a de-googled rom, or get root access and de-google it yourself.

  • Funny thing is, on my laptop there's an issue with Linux and browsers. Any video or animation, even little animations, runs at like 3fps. This makes using a browser virtually impossible.

    Everything else works well, but that just doesn't make Linux an option for me right now. I tried a variety of browsers and distros. It's really frustrating. It's not even a bad laptop, Lenovo Legion 5 pro RTX3060.

    What GPU does your laptop have?

  • I will when either Nvidia supports it fully, or AMD releases a GPU that can keep up in the ray tracing department.

    Also, HDR support in Linux needs to get a lot better. Like an order of magnitude better. Then and only then will I switch.

    nvidia supports it

  • What GPU does your laptop have?

    I said in my previous comment an RTX3060 and an iGPU. I tried with the iGPU, without the iGPU, switching them, hybrid mode. Nvidia drivers, nouveau drivers, it's always the same.

    I wrote a post on it some time ago: https://feddit.nl/post/34127250

  • I said in my previous comment an RTX3060 and an iGPU. I tried with the iGPU, without the iGPU, switching them, hybrid mode. Nvidia drivers, nouveau drivers, it's always the same.

    I wrote a post on it some time ago: https://feddit.nl/post/34127250

    Sorry, I had just woken up so I missed it 😓. I would suggest asking this in your distro's forum if you still have Linux installed on that laptop.

  • I will when either Nvidia supports it fully, or AMD releases a GPU that can keep up in the ray tracing department.

    Also, HDR support in Linux needs to get a lot better. Like an order of magnitude better. Then and only then will I switch.

    I'm run Nvidia since before I started using Linux. Sometimes waking from sleep doesn't work, other than that I have zero issues. Ymmv of course.

  • No, I don't want Linux or any other OS. I perfectly know my way around with Windows and so many of my regular tasks depend on tools made for Windows. I have used Linux desktop in the past and have many friends and co-workers who use it as their main OS, but it's just not for me.

    Besides of course this recall stuff gets blown way out of proportion like every time Microsoft makes a bad move. All of my computers don't even support recall and when they eventually do, I'll just disable it in one of like four possible different ways.

    It's not JUST about recall, but whatever.

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