more people are using it than ever

We're making more money than ever! But what if we could make even morer money than ever!?

Hey, it's expensive to host nude comics in s3 and pass payment info into stripe.

They need to double head count because the middle managers need fiefdoms.

They doing soooo much innovating work justify the price. You'll see guys!

/s

They took very large sums of money from venture capital firms. As in many millions. Those now require constant and perpetual number-go-up. This won't stop getting worse, let alone get better. There are other services. If you're a creator, use them.

not that they've made enough changes to warrant getting extra money.

They've added video, which is a pretty substantial expense.

Reasonable

Yeah, have at it, the barrier to entry on taking some payments and distributing it to people is so high that no one else can possibly get in that market...

Liberapay is looking pretty good right now.

Our prices are increasing for creators who publish a new Patreon page after August 4, 2025

Basically this. So translating from corporate to human they see their business model is stagnating ?

What do they even do besides providing a website and payment system?

“What do they even do besides provide the entire platform for the creators?”

Come on man lol. If they were not needed they wouldn’t exist.

They might not remember the days befoee sites like patron

How did you get that? They’re just consolidating their pricing tiers. There was an $8 one and a $12 one, now there is only $10. Smack bang in the middle.

They say they haven’t increased their prices in 6 years. That doesn’t mean their prices have stayed the same, oh no - that means that their prices have decreased over that time due to not keeping up with the massive inflation since then.

They haven’t increased prices in 6 years. Inflation over the last 6 years is like what, 30%?

It's not $10. It's 10%.

We’re consolidating our pricing to a standard 10% platform plan + applicable taxes

In May 2019, we introduced new creator plans and fees: Pro at 8%, and Premium at 12%

Percentage is inflation proof. They did not decrease anything over time.

I get what you are saying but unless pateron does waaay more than I think they do 10% cut for hosting a web page to take subscription money seems unreasonable. Which is where all the hate for it comes from.

Ok so what are the alternatives & how we can make a better one if there are no good ones ?

10%, $10, doesn’t matter.

Percentage isn’t inflation proof. Them taking a percentage only means it increases with inflation if the thing they’re taking a percentage of does too.

Someone else should do it for 9% then. Easy, right?

Ko-fi charges a 5% platform fee on some features (like memberships, shop, and commissions), but donations are free. They also charge payment processing fees from PayPal or Stripe.

There is also Buy me coffee

We don't charge a monthly fee. All features, including publishing and emails, are free for everyone. We charge a 5% transaction fee, and creators keep 95% of the earnings.

The issue is the size of platform. Once you get to certain size you can do w/e for hosting fees plus brand name support people feel comfortable donationing to. Only fans and subscriberstar charge more because others dont support NSFW stuff so thats obviously a jerk move. Sure pateron does things like tier system but is that really worth the cost. Im not sold on it yet.