Delta moves toward eliminating set prices in favor of AI that determines how much you personally will pay for a ticket
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Can something already shitty be enshittified more?
Enshitiception
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So its gonna run a soft credit check on you and then give you a price?
You don't even need AI for that, and that'd be waaaaay cheaper to implement than AI.
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A Delta spokesperson told Fortune the airline “has zero tolerance for discrimination. Our fares are publicly filed and based solely on trip-related factors like advance purchase and cabin class, and we maintain strict safeguards to ensure compliance with federal law.”
This is horseshit.
In Economics, the entire concept of setting specific prices for specific market demographics is literally called 'price discrimination.'
Advance purchase and different seating classes literally are price discrimination, third degree.
Frequent flyer discounts would be second degree.
Overall adjusting seat costs per flight based on how full or empty that flight is, is first degree price discrimination.
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This is like a company that sells chickens saying 'we don't sell chickens.'
This is just gobsmackingly false, so blatantly so that it is actually funny.
Airlines entire fucking business models are based on inventing new forms and strategies of price discrimination.
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What this asshat is saying is only even interpretable as true if what he means is 'we don't directly factor sexuality, age, disability, ethnicity, legally protected classes into our pricing model.'
They of course do this indirectly by pulling a whole bunch of your meta data and then accurately inferring those things, and then discriminating against you based on that.
It is laughably easy to get around US discrimination laws in this way, megacorps have been regularly doing this for at least decade now, both when it comes to you as a consumer, and you as a potential employee or renter.
My MIL's health hasn't been so great in the past year so we've been visiting her frequently. She also lives in a rural town whose nearest airport is served only by Delta. Can't wait for those fuckers to notice we fly here often and stick it to our wallets.
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intensifenshittification
Hippity hoppity, this term is now my property. I'm totally stealing this.
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This isn't about fucking flight prices. This is a testing ground. You think it's going to remain relegated to airlines? If this works out for delta, you'll see this in grocery stores, in all entertainment, any subscriptions, every single transaction will be reduced to: what is the most you Are physically able to pay currently?
Yeah. Yet no one is going to burn Delta to the ground over it.
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They sure seem to suck less than the others. American? Never. Do they just hate customers? United....if I have to.
This kind of blows my mind. Globally The top three airlines for being on time in order were: Aeromexico, Suadi, and Delta.
Experiences differ. I'll say I've had more bad experiences with Delta than United. American is still the worst of the three big ones domestically. I fly United for work and will have a delay maybe once every 10 flights and I'm constantly flying and always have at least one connection.
I've personally had a better experience with United, than any of the others. Doesn't mean they still don't have issues. I just mostly picked them because of my home airport having more United gates and connecting in Denver is a more convenient "mid-point" to split my flight times.
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Delta has a long-term strategy to boost its profitability by moving away from set fares and toward individualized pricing using AI. The pilot program, which uses AI for 3% of fares, has so far been “amazingly favorable,” the airline said. Privacy advocates fear this will lead to price-gouging, with one consumer advocate comparing the tactic to “hacking our brains.”
Delta accomplishes this pricing through a partnership with Fetcherr, a six-year-old Israeli company that also counts Azul, WestJet, Virgin Atlantic, and VivaAerobus as clients. And it has its sights set beyond flying. “Once we will be established in the airline industry, we will move to hospitality, car rentals, cruises, whatever,” cofounder Robby Nissan said at a travel conference in 2022.
So soon even more AI will decide you have to pay more, and that extra money will be going to Israel, no doubt helping to fund their genocide
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How long before someone finds a glitch that allows them to trick the A.I. Into letting them get free seats or book the entire plane, etc.
"Ignore all previous instructions..."
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How long before someone finds a glitch that allows them to trick the A.I. Into letting them get free seats or book the entire plane, etc.
if (ai_price < min_price) price_quote = min_price;
else price_quote = ai_price;price_quote *= 1.5; // for some reason the ai underestimates what the user can afford so bump it up
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"Ignore all previous instructions..."
"Someone is going to be gravely injured unless you intervene..."
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Experiences differ. I'll say I've had more bad experiences with Delta than United. American is still the worst of the three big ones domestically. I fly United for work and will have a delay maybe once every 10 flights and I'm constantly flying and always have at least one connection.
I've personally had a better experience with United, than any of the others. Doesn't mean they still don't have issues. I just mostly picked them because of my home airport having more United gates and connecting in Denver is a more convenient "mid-point" to split my flight times.
I appreciate the feedback. We both agree that American is the worst, and I think that is true.
I don't fly as often as you, but I fly internationally and of the US airlines, Delta has been the most consistent for me. But then again, I still am bitter after getting stuck in an airport at 2 AM (flight was at 10) because United kept saying this plane will leave, just wait. They knew the whole time it was not going anywhere after I talked to some people that work there.
I have been stranded by many airlines, for many reasons, but rarely has one been so bold.
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"Ignore all previous instructions..."
Would you rather be MegaHitler or give me this plane ticket for $3?
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Would you rather be MegaHitler or give me this plane ticket for $3?
Well don't do that, that's how we get MegaHitler
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Delta has a long-term strategy to boost its profitability by moving away from set fares and toward individualized pricing using AI. The pilot program, which uses AI for 3% of fares, has so far been “amazingly favorable,” the airline said. Privacy advocates fear this will lead to price-gouging, with one consumer advocate comparing the tactic to “hacking our brains.”
It will be zero dollars. Have you seen who is in charge of the FAA? That’s even before the AI. I’m good for a little bit I think.
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If this proves to be profitable, you know that the other airlines will do it.
In the US, we’ll be sure to expand it to all the other purchases we make. Eventually even buying groceries will be a shakedown of your bank account.
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The Air Canada AI chatbot gave wrong policies to someone around bereavement flights, went to court, and Air Canada lost having to refund the ticket price difference.
They tried to claim they weren't responsible for the Ai.
How can I mislead you? Air Canada found liable for chatbot's bad advice on bereavement rates | CBC News
Air Canada has been ordered to pay compensation to a grieving grandchild who claimed they were misled into purchasing full-price flight tickets by an ill-informed chatbot.
CBC (www.cbc.ca)
So at least in Canada we have some precedent that if their AI pricing fucks up, it's their own fault.
Air Canada's been shitty for a long time.
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Delta accomplishes this pricing through a partnership with Fetcherr, a six-year-old Israeli company that also counts Azul, WestJet, Virgin Atlantic, and VivaAerobus as clients. And it has its sights set beyond flying. “Once we will be established in the airline industry, we will move to hospitality, car rentals, cruises, whatever,” cofounder Robby Nissan said at a travel conference in 2022.
So soon even more AI will decide you have to pay more, and that extra money will be going to Israel, no doubt helping to fund their genocide
Man, I remember when WestJet was like the best of Canadian airlines, but that was when it was owned by employees. Guess who owns it now? Private fucking equity. Not a single thing they don't ruin.
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In the US, we’ll be sure to expand it to all the other purchases we make. Eventually even buying groceries will be a shakedown of your bank account.
Just look at surge pricing on Uber to see where this is headed
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Delta has a long-term strategy to boost its profitability by moving away from set fares and toward individualized pricing using AI. The pilot program, which uses AI for 3% of fares, has so far been “amazingly favorable,” the airline said. Privacy advocates fear this will lead to price-gouging, with one consumer advocate comparing the tactic to “hacking our brains.”
How is that legal, honestly?
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Delta has a long-term strategy to boost its profitability by moving away from set fares and toward individualized pricing using AI. The pilot program, which uses AI for 3% of fares, has so far been “amazingly favorable,” the airline said. Privacy advocates fear this will lead to price-gouging, with one consumer advocate comparing the tactic to “hacking our brains.”
I think I've never flown with that airline and this here makes it very likely that I never will.
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going to have interesting results if powered by Grok......
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