Delta moves toward eliminating set prices in favor of AI that determines how much you personally will pay for a ticket
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Charge most more and a few the same. I doubt anyone will be getting charged less.
On the rare occasion I fly, I know I can get my long knees in a Delta plus seat. This restriction will definitely make my ticket go up with such an AI. It feels like it should be an accomodation but is more often a punishment.
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Aren't there laws about this in that country? I seem to remember reading about that a while back.
laws? regulating a private company? thats ridiculous
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About half of Americans are literally debt slaves already
I know that as of 2024, its about 10 to 15% of Americans with a negative net worth.
More debt than savings/investments.
So... thats your floor for literal debt slaves.
But uh, hah hah HAH,... the housing market is now crashing.
And the vast majority of Americans have a their house as their largest... investment/debt liability.
So... yeah. Probably gonna be heading closer to 50%.
Oh right, and then also every one behind on their student loans is now getting sent to collections, grace period over...
Yeah its all fucked, so fucked I don't even think anyone has a holistic view of all the precise data, at this point.
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Oh good. Then it will know I'm too broke to fly.
ETA The real joy will be when someone charts prices and notices nonwhites are disproportionately overcharged, for which Delta will be responsible during the class action lawsuit.
And saying but the algo / AI did it will be as useful as saying but that's the fault of our sales people who get commissions.
That was my first thought. Even if the system does not know people’s protected class status, does not mean it cannot discriminate against them.
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Aren't there laws about this in that country? I seem to remember reading about that a while back.
There are SUPPOSED to be laws against it ... but will they enforce them?
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That was my first thought. Even if the system does not know people’s protected class status, does not mean it cannot discriminate against them.
I’ve recently been looking at how Facebook’s advertising algorithm works, and it is a piece of pure fucking “the AI did it not us” evil. It can seek out all types of vulnerable people and target them on stuff that if a human salesperson did it you’d call them a sociopath.
Anorexic? Body confidence issues? Financial problems? Signs of susceptibility to fascist messaging? Here’s some paid messages from people who want your dollar. Seriously that whole place needs shutting down, it’s the worst thing to happen to humanity in recent history.
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They left it until the very end of the article:
Early research on personalized pricing isn’t favorable for the consumer. Consumer Watchdog found that the best deals were offered to the wealthiest customers—with the worst deals given to the poorest people, who are least likely to have other options.
Yeah when I started travelling on a generous business expense account I found that it was increasingly the case that I didn’t even need to charge things to it. Things just start becoming fucking free when you’ve got money.
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I have predicted this for a while now. As this will take effect, the airline no longer have responsibility for what sets the prices. The AI could for instance become very racist, driving prices through the roof for colored people if it somehow determines that well-paying racist customers will pay more to fly with only white people. Several scenarios like that could unfold, and since LLMs are basically impossible to get the source values for their decissions, no one can be held responsible for such choices.
Oh, and I'm sure the data from 23andMe will be abused soon to ensure that only healthy people get good prices. The personal data which "didn't matter that we shared" is about to unfold.
I haven’t seen inside their system but the chances of it being an LLM are close to zero, least of all because LLMs are notoriously unreliable at calculating numbers. It’s far more likely that they’re saying “AI” because shareholders, and it’s actually something closer to traditional ML.
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laws? regulating a private company? thats ridiculous
This is AMERICA we have the FREEDOM to pick one of 2 -3 companies that will take advantage of us and keep us in poverty
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There is no fucking way that that is sustained simply due to the fact that people would BURN THIS PLACE DOWN if companies start doing shit like that. No one has money as it is. I'm not convinced we're not going to burn it down as it is.
These elites has truly lost the plot and are going so far down the comic book villain lane, they're going to start dying like comic book villains. Dunked in acid, frozen solid, crushed by their exploding submarine, eaten by their own rabid experiments... Who knows, but I'm excited to find out.
You can strike crushed by their exploding submarine off your list. Already happened.
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Does the AI know that it would have to pay me to fly Delta? Has it been trained on that data?
No but I’m sure it will be informed by Facebook when your best friend dies and when the funeral will be so that flight will cost twice as much.
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Delta has a long-term strategy to boost its profitability by moving away from set fares and toward individualized pricing using AI. The pilot program, which uses AI for 3% of fares, has so far been “amazingly favorable,” the airline said. Privacy advocates fear this will lead to price-gouging, with one consumer advocate comparing the tactic to “hacking our brains.”
How long until they are found price-gouging people in certain demographics?
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why should they? it's basically just a worse version of scaling prices by income, something the government loves doing.
thats a dishonest argument. One has a money assembly line straight to a billionaire's house. The other's assembly line that has a possibility to be used for public good.
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that's econ 101.
Also the poor should have not seemed desperate.
Econ 101 also states that a failed business stops existing. In reality, failed businesses are endlessly bailed out as "too big to fail" and they pay their executives bonuses with that bailout money while continuing to rip off customers along with the other one or two companies in the same industry that do the same.
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How long until they are found price-gouging people in certain demographics?
Somehow me think that AI will be used to increase prices where it can, but not the other way around
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They left it until the very end of the article:
Early research on personalized pricing isn’t favorable for the consumer. Consumer Watchdog found that the best deals were offered to the wealthiest customers—with the worst deals given to the poorest people, who are least likely to have other options.
This is honestly surprising to me. Wouldn't they charge wealthy people more because they could just suck up the higher prices?
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Delta has a long-term strategy to boost its profitability by moving away from set fares and toward individualized pricing using AI. The pilot program, which uses AI for 3% of fares, has so far been “amazingly favorable,” the airline said. Privacy advocates fear this will lead to price-gouging, with one consumer advocate comparing the tactic to “hacking our brains.”
AI does calculation
...processing...
Done!
Answer = 0$
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Brb, shredding for my next holiday, hoping to book in featherweight class.
finally a decent reason to lose weight. longer life? pfft? have you seen this shit? and there's no amount of weight I can lose to look better lol.
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Oh good. Then it will know I'm too broke to fly.
ETA The real joy will be when someone charts prices and notices nonwhites are disproportionately overcharged, for which Delta will be responsible during the class action lawsuit.
And saying but the algo / AI did it will be as useful as saying but that's the fault of our sales people who get commissions.
And saying but the algo / AI did it
Sure, the algo did it. But someone chose to use it and continue using it.
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Shit like this is just another reason that I won't fly. Fucking cunts.
I minimize air travel to the extent possible. Unfortunately I have non-local family so unless I choose to just not see them my choices are a bit limited.
But yeah, I don't fly for tourism or leisure.
