Google is going ‘all in’ on AI. It’s part of a troubling trend in big tech
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the fuck does service now even need AI for?
I hate any company I work for that uses ServiceNow. And now it's getting worse??
It actually makes a lot of sense. AI is a good use case for case management. The problem is how much you depend on it without human intervention, but even humans fuck up, especially if they’re following the same rules and processes that the AI tool would. The AI tool just gets through cases faster, so in theory you can sus out root causes sooner.
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In regard to Linux users being left out in the cold.. how so? Do you think that distros are going to start enforcing attestation? I doubt that it will be a hard requirement for most, even in the next decade or two. It's an option, yes, but mandatory?
FWIW, all of my banking apps work just fine with compatibility mode enabled on Graphene. Also, I'm not sure saying it's inevitable is the right way to go, it certainly won't make others care about their privacy and security.
In regard to Linux users being left out in the cold.. how so? Do you think that distros are going to start enforcing attestation? I doubt that it will be a hard requirement for most, even in the next decade or two. It's an option, yes, but mandatory?
It does not matter if Linux supports attestation or not, because ultimately the application (or website) will determine if it wants to run on Linux. It's up to the company developing it's application or website to determine if they want to support more than windows/Mac.
Graphene has its own variation of attestation (they cryptographically sign requests with their own key - and not googles), but it requires additional hoops for each application - few companies are willing to do this.
Attestation is a wet dream for companies. You don't need DRM (as the OS will enforce it) and you can be certain your competitors/hackers cannot reverse engineer/pirate your code or run the application in an emulator. And the implementation effort to support it, is as simple as "make function call and check the response".
Linux will still exist (especially on the server side) and developers will still use it as a desktop machine. However, (as I implied) non-Linux games will stop working, accessing you banks website from linux will be rejected, emulation will cease - it'll be a corporate paradise... the stocks will go up.
FWIW, all of my banking apps work just fine with compatibility mode enabled on Graphene.
Revolut explicitly goes out of their way to not work on Graphene.
I've complained, they don't care. The bean counters have done their risk calculations and decided that the personal data they collect/mine (and the integrity of that data) is worth more than losing a few graphene users.
Also, I'm not sure saying it's inevitable is the right way to go, it certainly won't make others care about their privacy and security.
You do have a valid point: giving up after trying nothing won't help. However, I fear there will need to be "government intervention" to allow hardware and software to be "open for everyone". I'll admit my bias in wonder how well governments (of late) are representing the best interests of the people. But, these topics are complicated for even technically inclined people - let alone politicians. And the strawman argument against intervention is always going to be "in the name of security".
From my perspective, the writing is on the wall. This apocalyptic future won't happen over night, but it will be a slow boil over the next 10 years (or so).
If you've got ideas for how to avoid this, I'm all ears.
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Tech companies don't really give a damn what customers want anymore. They have decided this is the path of the future because it gives them the most control of your data, your purchasing habits and your online behavior. Since they control the back end, the software, the tech stack, the hardware, all of it, they just decided this is how it shall be. And frankly, there's nothing you can do to resist it, aside from just eschewing using a phone at all. and divorcing yourself from all modern technology, which isn't really reasonable for most people. That or legislation, but LOL United States.
Not sure how far back you’re talking but for a VERY long time they have been and continue to be in the business of what feeds the machine.
Why do you think we have computers in our possession 24/7? Not because we wanted it, but because they told us we wanted it and it enabled us to be available to feed the machine 24/7. You can work more. You can buy more.
Social media? Feeds the machine.
Television? Feeds the machine.
Cars? Feeds the machine.
Phones. Telegraphs. Fucking lightbulbs.
All used to feed the machine.
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I find this current timeline so confusing. Supposedly we're going to have AGI soon, and yet Google's AI keeps telling you to stick glue on pizza. How can both things be true?
It's the same reason why they removed the headphone jacks from phones. They don't want to give you a better product, they want you to force youbto use a product, even if it's worse in all aspects
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I find this current timeline so confusing. Supposedly we're going to have AGI soon, and yet Google's AI keeps telling you to stick glue on pizza. How can both things be true?
Google just released a video generator that is a ball hair away from perfection. The hallucination rate from their latest models is <1% and dropping you just see cherry picked screenshots.
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Apple still lets you disable their AI which I’m grateful for.
DuckDuckGo has made A.I. results optional, which is a good move.
Companies that are making it fixed can go swimming in lava for all I care (looking at you Google).
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Google just released a video generator that is a ball hair away from perfection. The hallucination rate from their latest models is <1% and dropping you just see cherry picked screenshots.
I don't think image generators are really in the same category though. They'll have their applications but they're not going to be a fundamental change to society the way AGI will be.
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I assume it's big tech that has this weird ai they try to sell while the scientists are using different ai for real useful stuff, like the protein something I heard. Or at least that's what I'd like to believe.
A whole lot of useful stuff that wasn't publicly labelled AI got relabeled to take advantage of funding opportunities. That doesn't mean it is related to generative AI like LLMs and image generators though.
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I don't think image generators are really in the same category though. They'll have their applications but they're not going to be a fundamental change to society the way AGI will be.
It’s part of AGI and will be a massive shift. They are to video what punk was to music.
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It’s part of AGI and will be a massive shift. They are to video what punk was to music.
Agi and image diffusion has literally nothing in common though?
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Google just released a video generator that is a ball hair away from perfection. The hallucination rate from their latest models is <1% and dropping you just see cherry picked screenshots.
The physics and perspective are still horrible, every video makes me want to vomit my brain
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Agi and image diffusion has literally nothing in common though?
Yes it does. It’s one component of a broader system. The ability to generate helps it interpret. An AGI might use a diffusion model to imagine scenarios, generate visual plans, or process sensory input.
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imagine if a company said they're going all in on quality instead
But higher quality ≠ more profits
AI apparently makes investors wanna dump in all their money tho -
The physics and perspective are still horrible, every video makes me want to vomit my brain
Only sometimes, with enough generations you can already make indistinguishable videos for the most part. You’re seeing these mistakes because it’s amateurs spending $100 not professionals spending $10k.
Given current rate of pace Veo4 should be out in a couple months.
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The two thing I use most, by far, from Google, is gmail and basic search.
Gmail, I'm looking to move away from it now, but I currently have every little addition to it disabled. Basic inbox and tags, no automatic filtering, no categories, no nothing.
Search, my browser is set to open the "web" tab with the query, no transformation, no summary, no "for you", no AI garbage, no "we thought you wanted video so there's only video in the replies". It still works fine.
Basically, none of what they added for years… maybe decade at this point, had held a glimmer of interest from me. It feels like this trend will continue. I just want something very basic that works.
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They certainly didn't help it by weighing it down with more and more ads.
I think they did more - I vaguely remember them admitting they messed up the search result on purpose so the user will run more queries and will see even more ads.
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Only sometimes, with enough generations you can already make indistinguishable videos for the most part. You’re seeing these mistakes because it’s amateurs spending $100 not professionals spending $10k.
Given current rate of pace Veo4 should be out in a couple months.
I was referring to the demos shown at I/O, my brain seems to see them all as “flat”, it’s like a reverse magic eye thing. It reminds me of the uncomfortableness of a fever dream. I may be the exception tbf!
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Well one of the big problems with it is it's never properly configured. One of the most annoying things that it does is that it generates tasks only when previous tasks are closed, in theory that makes sense but really the result is that you close a task, and then you have to go looking in the ticket queue for the new task it's just generated, so you can close that one too. Total waste of time.
I guess that makes some sense, I loathe Jira but I think it's largely because everywhere I've worked that uses Jira has poorly customized it and just ruined the experience.
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Yes it does. It’s one component of a broader system. The ability to generate helps it interpret. An AGI might use a diffusion model to imagine scenarios, generate visual plans, or process sensory input.
The AGI, by definition, will make something vastly better than diffusion model. That's one of the cornerstones of AGI, it will explode it's capabilities.
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Can confirm. The more you deal with people who have climbed to the tops of corporate ladders, the more it becomes clear that it's all vibes. It's all people telling stories to other people who tell stories about those stories.
The peter principle is wrong - in an oversized corporate structure, there is no upper bound for incompetence. You can keep rising for no reason, because after a certain point other people just trust that you know what you're talking about, and the people that know better work around you instead.
The people beneath you can't trust the people above you enough to explain the situation, the people above you don't really listen to the people beneath you anyway, and so plenty of middle managers just muddle through and constantly make shit up to justify their own existence, while everyone above and below is left in the dark about what's really going on.
Decisions are constantly made by people without any real connection to the consequences, and it shows. With the everything.
the people that know better work around you instead.
In fact one of the ways to work around you that causes the least friction is usually to just get you promoted away from the places where you can do the most direct damage in the area other people on a similar level to you care about.