My point was not only that aspect, but also about the fact that input and output of the task is information. And while information itself can be a "product" or be provided as a service, in most cases, it's not.

But anyhow, I feel like I'm overexplaining myself over a term I said wasn't good.

You're acting like the most "well acsually" person ever. You see the word "never" and don't understand that people routinely use this word colloquially not to literally mean "there was zero cases in history of humanity". Maybe they shouldn't do that, maybe people should use "almost never" to mean "almost never", but they aren't.
If you want to engage with meaning of what the person you're arguing was saying, instead of hanging up on a technical usage of the word, their point was that sensationalist media and crazy usually religiously motivated groups love misunderstanding teenagers stupid humour, and making a big panic out of basically nothing. All the kids who really physically put tide pods in their mouths even for a second for a stupid video, can fit into one short bus. But the panic around it was so widespread, you could get an impression that everyone is popping them like tic tacs. That is a classic example of a moral panic.

Like all horrible male "beauty trends" it comes from looksmaxxing forums where it was a joke but the people were highly autistic and actually did it. The same thing happens when it gets to tiktok. A bunch of people post about it knowing its a joke and people who struggle to understand its a joke get sucked in.

To "normal" people its like yeah obviously this is stupid, but to someone whos extremely socially inept they view it as a real path to looking like that. I've not met someone who has done this one exactly but ive met people who have done insanely destructive things because of what they saw on the internet.

Do you think lemmy sets public policy? The only thing that happens here is people comment on shit. So you're bothered by comments to the effect of "influencers tell kids to do stupid shit and sometimes kids die because of it, and this is bad."

Why do you think that freedom of speech means no one is allowed to criticize speech? Criticism is also speech.

Won't someone think of the poor influencers!? Sorry, "creators". Just like Van Gogh and Stanley Kubrick.

Well you can't stop everyone from being foolish. Before this they copied stuff on tv.

You say that but i appreciate their efforts. And wile i will understand and expect creators to work at their own pace, if only the algorithm wasn’t 100% momentum driven AND/OR i could just get front page notification when my subs post something, and didn’t just unsub me for not watching a video for a wile. I am an adult and can manage my own feeds

Thats true

I absolutely agree that criticism is speech and should absolutely be protected, even if the take doesn't have merit. And that's basically what I'm doing here, I'm criticizing the FUD against social media platforms like TikTok; yes they're bad, but not bad enough to curtail speech.

And yes, Lemmy doesn't set policy, but voters elect reps who do, and there are a lot of voters here. That's why I bother discussing politics at all, in the hope that maybe someone will consider what I have to say the next time they cast their ballot. Who knows, maybe I'll persuade someone that freedom is worth more than protectionism, probably not, but I'm not doing much else while sitting on the toilet.

Children were never eating tide pods either.

Somewaht true, back at the time we had not tide pods.

But we did a lot of stupid shit even without social media.

How does one unintentionally eat a tide pod?

The same way a bulb end up in someone ass...

Funny. I follow some creators, but if they don't post I'll just check back later, and the content will still be relevant.

If your followers just leave you if you don't post, your content is probably shallow and doesn't really add much value to the world.

The algorithm is also fucked, but you use it to your advantage when you can, so can you really complain about the downside? This is what you choose to work with.

That being said, making good content is hard and really time consuming. So I get that there is stress.

But I believe if you make good solid content that suits you and your style, you don't need to get into a pissing contest with the algorithm. Upload when you want, make what you want and you will attract viewers. They are out there, and they will find you through searching.

And while information itself can be a "product" or be provided as a service, in most cases, it's not.

Sure, but my point is that the same is true of physical machines. People don't want working machines for the sake of working machines. They want working machines to actually do something else, to output a "product" of that machine's operation.

And viewed in that way, information services are as much a standalone "product" as maintenance/repair services. Information services account for trillions of dollars of economic activity for a reason.

Get a job*

Yeah sheez. You know what you can’t pause? The flow of customers into the drive through. Internet influencers work on their own clock.

Let’s get an article about fast food worker burnout please.

first of all these people are basicly making others buy crap they dont really want. second: this is just an article about young workers, who work too much and cant seperate their private life from worklife. could have been an insightful newspiece if it werent for guardian and the usual forced buzzwords.

If your audience will disappear because you go away for 5 minutes you were probably not providing anything of value in the first place

I could support a few of these

Cool, I have workplace stress and complete fatigue from sitting in an office dealing with bullshit all day and I don't get paid millions fucking around on YouTube and tiktok. You can't pause any job. Stfu

OK, Santa.