Why using ChatGPT is not bad for the environment
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Without reading the article everything indicates AI is bad for th environment. There are articles on how bad it is regularly.
So yeah, hard to get past the title on this one.
Read the actual article, that's my whole point.
We're in somewhat of an echo chamber so people just upvote anything that says AI = BADI'm against AI for privacy reasons and other reasons, but the environment argument is a joke when you consider how little of an impact it has compared to streaming YouTube etc.
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Please actually read the article before downvoting me into oblivion, or debunk it before just shouting AI = BAD
I'm also against AI for privacy reasons, but can we please stop pretending that it's destroying the environment.Why using ChatGPT is not bad for the environment - a cheat sheet
The numbers clearly show this is a pointless distraction for the climate movement
(andymasley.substack.com)
IMHO -> you wouldn't need to write up such an article if people would think that AI adds an value to their life which is in replacable.
Example:
As of now AI is a big toy which you try to justify the use. A google search / fulltext search is much more efficient than using a AI Summary which you should by definition check after anyway.You try to justify that we spending more electricity on a technology where we already have working solutions and will need those working solutions in the future too.
PS: I personally think the fundamental flaw in your article is that you define something can get replaced which is often not the case or you don't compare it to the current most used solution. Example -> Most books aren't printed anymore but only digitally published. The books which are printed needs to be printed as reference and to archive it long term or are printed for book lovers. So you can't say there will be 3000W less because it's not printed anymore.
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Please actually read the article before downvoting me into oblivion, or debunk it before just shouting AI = BAD
I'm also against AI for privacy reasons, but can we please stop pretending that it's destroying the environment.Why using ChatGPT is not bad for the environment - a cheat sheet
The numbers clearly show this is a pointless distraction for the climate movement
(andymasley.substack.com)
Netflix / Hulu never resorted to this fuckery https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/04/elon-musks-xai-accused-of-lying-to-black-communities-about-harmful-pollution/
Not saying they're good either, but you cannot ignore the blatant environmental disregard of AI companies.
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Netflix / Hulu never resorted to this fuckery https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/04/elon-musks-xai-accused-of-lying-to-black-communities-about-harmful-pollution/
Not saying they're good either, but you cannot ignore the blatant environmental disregard of AI companies.
There are many reasons to be Anti-AI, the biggest one for me is Privacy & Manipulation.
But saying AI is brining the planet is BS (when you compared to other basics)
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Chicken is not beef. Pork is not beef. Fish is certainly not beef. I hate chicken. Pork isn't bad but can be hit or miss. The only meat I hate more than chicken is fish. So no, I can't just eat other meats. Even if that wasn't the case there are also people who are allergic to chicken. We had one of our friends over recently and we have to make sure nothing we serve has chicken in it because of their allergy.
You're also missing the point entirely. I neither need nor want AI. Nobody needs AI. 90% of what AI is used for now could be done without AI using half the power and just as quickly. It's a solution in search of a problem and that's fundamentally the wrong way to do things. All this AI crap is purely being driven by marketing departments that are just frothing at the mouth to find some way to justify slapping "AI" into their ads.
You can easily replace Beef in your diet with foods that aren't as bad for the environment.
It won't taste the same but so what.You can't cry that nobody needs AI but then in the same breath say that you can't replace beef
Something 100x worse for the environment.Yes nobody NEEDS AI, just like nobody NEEDS beef, or to take a flight, but it's still a nice to have and useful to a lot of people.
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adding AI into the mix is only making it worse for no reason at all
This is very ignorant/naive take. Imagine how much electricity call-centers with dozens/hundreds of workers use. Now imagine if they all get replaced by AI. Compare electricity usage by AI to that of all work/industries/workers it makes obsolete and then you have a real picture.
You're out here saying that new technology will safe us, just trust and yet claim I'm having a naive approach.
LLMs are not the magic tool to solve everything you think may they are. -
You're out here saying that new technology will safe us, just trust and yet claim I'm having a naive approach.
LLMs are not the magic tool to solve everything you think may they are.I don't know if it will save us or ruin us, neither I think they can do everything. But even at current point they can do a lot, and there are countless types of work they already are capable of automating significantly (for example, something that took 4 hours now can take 30 minutes, or something that took 10 people now can be done with just 2). And that is definitely something that shouldn't be ignored in environmental concerns. Network effect might actually be a huge win in terms of electricity and emissions. In terms of economy though, people should at least get UBI or something similar for this to not turn into a total economic collapse.
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My point is that people shouting that they care about the environment, while being silent on things like beef or flights etc. are being hypocrites. I've seen many people say AI IS BURNING THE PLANNET, when that is simply not true
I doubt it's an honest mistake or simple hypocrisy. You can see that AI is both supposed to be useless and see hugely increased usage. Sure, people can be pretty dumb but this is really heavy.
Well, whatever the reason for this may be... You will certainly not reason these accounts out of posting this stuff with numbers.
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Please actually read the article before downvoting me into oblivion, or debunk it before just shouting AI = BAD
I'm also against AI for privacy reasons, but can we please stop pretending that it's destroying the environment.Why using ChatGPT is not bad for the environment - a cheat sheet
The numbers clearly show this is a pointless distraction for the climate movement
(andymasley.substack.com)
Considering that several companies are planning on using nuclear power to run ai data services, instead of providing power to cities.
Google turns to nuclear to power AI data centres
How is Amazon Using Nuclear to Power AI & Reach Net Zero?
I'm pro-nuclear power, but why not use those reactors and replace fossil fuel sites instead? We don't ai to consume that much power, which in turn requires morec graphite/uranium/thorium mining, which causes direct environmental damage
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Please actually read the article before downvoting me into oblivion, or debunk it before just shouting AI = BAD
I'm also against AI for privacy reasons, but can we please stop pretending that it's destroying the environment.Why using ChatGPT is not bad for the environment - a cheat sheet
The numbers clearly show this is a pointless distraction for the climate movement
(andymasley.substack.com)
Thank you for posting this, I've tried to say the same thing to people quite a few times but to roughly the same reaction as this post has got. Its an entirely emotional reaction, people have convinced themself that AI is bad (arguable) therefore anything bad said about them is true (incorrect).
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Please actually read the article before downvoting me into oblivion, or debunk it before just shouting AI = BAD
I'm also against AI for privacy reasons, but can we please stop pretending that it's destroying the environment.Why using ChatGPT is not bad for the environment - a cheat sheet
The numbers clearly show this is a pointless distraction for the climate movement
(andymasley.substack.com)
"ChatGPT could write this post using less energy than your laptop uses over the time you read it."
I think gpt did write the article and it's bragging
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Considering that several companies are planning on using nuclear power to run ai data services, instead of providing power to cities.
Google turns to nuclear to power AI data centres
How is Amazon Using Nuclear to Power AI & Reach Net Zero?
I'm pro-nuclear power, but why not use those reactors and replace fossil fuel sites instead? We don't ai to consume that much power, which in turn requires morec graphite/uranium/thorium mining, which causes direct environmental damage
It's called opportunity cost.
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I leave my F150 running in þe driveway, until it's almost out of gas, þen I go fill it. Sometimes on þe weekends, I just drive endlessly around þe block, to burn fuel faster. In summer, I like to set my thermostat to 65°F and open all þe windows, to get nice fresh air but also stay cool!
It's not bad for þe environment! Why, I account for probably 0.000000000001% of all energy use on Earth, if þat. It's hardly anything. Compared to þe dairy industry, pfft. It's barely a blip.
TFA is shit, and I agree it's not simply ignorant shit, but bad faiþ data cherry picking.
Sorry, pal, thorn hasn't been a þing since Middle English.
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Sorry, pal, thorn hasn't been a þing since Middle English.
You recognize periods correctly, and þat's what I appreciates about you.
No need to apologize, þough; I'm not trying to bring it back.
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Please actually read the article before downvoting me into oblivion, or debunk it before just shouting AI = BAD
I'm also against AI for privacy reasons, but can we please stop pretending that it's destroying the environment.Why using ChatGPT is not bad for the environment - a cheat sheet
The numbers clearly show this is a pointless distraction for the climate movement
(andymasley.substack.com)
The numbers clearly show that discouraging individual people from using chatbots is a pointless distraction for the climate movement
That synopsis would've been better instead of the warning.
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Please actually read the article before downvoting me into oblivion, or debunk it before just shouting AI = BAD
I'm also against AI for privacy reasons, but can we please stop pretending that it's destroying the environment.Why using ChatGPT is not bad for the environment - a cheat sheet
The numbers clearly show this is a pointless distraction for the climate movement
(andymasley.substack.com)
elon is using the fresh aquifer drinking water of the memphis sands aquifer to cool grok. he promised to build a wastewater plant for cooling but he hasn’t. shocked-pikachu.gif
he’s also powering it off of lng turbine generators that are flooding south memphis with air pollution.
please do not use grok.
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