The Browser Wasn’t Enough, Google Wants To Control All Your Software
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I don't know myself, but Graphene OS (on Google Pixel phones) has a pretty impressive sandbox layer for the play store and the apps it installs. It might be worth looking into if you're not aware of it currently. (But if you're aware of the Fairphone, I'm guessing you probably know about Graphene).
graphene is only for pixels i believe.
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You can stop using all Google products.
That may be true for you, but other people face different realities. When Google implements the sideloading block it will eventually be pushed to everyone who doesn't use a custom ROM.
also not everyone is saavy enough to use obscure services too.
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You can stop using all Google products.
My public school -- that my children are basically required by law to attend, remember -- is badgering me to sign a consent form so they can have Chromebooks.
This fight is a lot fucking larger than mere individual boycotts!
cant you give your child a cheap laptop, or they require thier inhouse shitty ones, use only?
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We need open bootloader and drivers for phones to make any real progress on this. This is what's holding back all initiatives.
and many phone manfacterers, issuers(non google, samsung, or IOs) IS CONSIDERING locking down thier phones.
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the best outcome for the short term would be to forcibly take away android from google and give it to an independent foundation. as I heard antitrust proceedings in the usa were heading that way a few months ago
not with trump around.
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Sadly the majority of normal people don't want control. They just want it to do some trivial task without any fuss at any cost.
they want IPHONES , macs, easy to use, not too complicated.
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I mean… it's hilarious that people still use Chrome when it has been a known back actor for years and years. Firefox is an excellent option and the more people that use it, the more it encourages companies to keep supporting open web standards.
Likewise, if you set an iPhone to use Advanced Data Protection, it's probably quite a bit more secure from intrusion than a similar Android phone. (And definitely more secure from subpoena.)
i abandoned it ever since they say they slow down incognito mode, and prevent the liberal use of adblockers, or extensions.
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You can stop using all Google products.
My public school -- that my children are basically required by law to attend, remember -- is badgering me to sign a consent form so they can have Chromebooks.
This fight is a lot fucking larger than mere individual boycotts!
And my kids school requires every parent to have a Google account to track progress and share information.
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also not everyone is saavy enough to use obscure services too.
Not everyone cares enough to avoid Google. Some of us that want to do so are related to them.
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And my kids school requires every parent to have a Google account to track progress and share information.
What happens if you refuse?
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cant you give your child a cheap laptop, or they require thier inhouse shitty ones, use only?
They require that the kids use the Chromebooks and use Google accounts.
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I mean… it's hilarious that people still use Chrome when it has been a known back actor for years and years. Firefox is an excellent option and the more people that use it, the more it encourages companies to keep supporting open web standards.
Likewise, if you set an iPhone to use Advanced Data Protection, it's probably quite a bit more secure from intrusion than a similar Android phone. (And definitely more secure from subpoena.)
Likewise, if you set an iPhone to use Advanced Data Protection.
You can pretend your iPhone isn't owned by a corporation that just swore fealty to the current regime, but until its running a custom ROM it isn't fucking yours.
Only phone that comes your own from factory I'd maybe the pinephone. Otherwise, get a pixel, rip out the factory OS install, and throw Graphen OS on it.
Both Android AND iOS have taken code from Graphene and used it to secure their codebases. Its probably one of, if not the most secure OS available to the average person today.
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What I wouldn't give for a very simple linux phone. Not android based. That I can call/message from.
Closest I came across that was neat: https://www.wiphone.io/
While pretty neat, I'd have a hard time even calling the WiPhone a phone if it doesn't have a cellular modem. You're entirely dependent on having a wifi connection. I suppose it could serve as a replacement for a landline, but that's about it.
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cant you give your child a cheap laptop, or they require thier inhouse shitty ones, use only?
At the highschool I went to, there was some standardized testing (act, ap tests) done in locked down software installed on the chromebooks. Like instead of logging into your user, it was before login with no browser or anything. It sometimes let you have desmos and a small place to take notes.
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What's my better option at this point?
Lemmy fucking HATES Apple but I trust Apple more than Google tbh
I stopped all Google stuff like 15 years ago
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FuriOS? Linux-based and runs Android apps.
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Interesting. I've not heard of FuriOS, but if it is a Linux phone that actually can be used with US carriers, makes calls and supports SMS/MMS, and can do VoLTE that's a actually a pretty big deal.
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While pretty neat, I'd have a hard time even calling the WiPhone a phone if it doesn't have a cellular modem. You're entirely dependent on having a wifi connection. I suppose it could serve as a replacement for a landline, but that's about it.
Yep! Its so close.
Looks like they had plans for LTE. Dunno how hard it is to ser up. Probably very hard.
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And they can suckle upon my peener.
I'll go to Graphine or something else before I let the company for whom "don't be evil" was too bold a statement dictate my fuckin' choices.
I already ditched Windows. Can't be that hard to cut Google out too.
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Lemmy fucking HATES Apple but I trust Apple more than Google tbh
I stopped all Google stuff like 15 years ago
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You are correct, Graphene only runs on Pixel phones. I know there's a few open mobile OS options out there but I've not spent any time researching them. There is a very good chance if you absolutely need an identification, then you can't get away from Android. Hopefully someone else sees your comment and has an answer.
There's a post about this on the Danish community here every few months. Afaik no one has any proper progress on it other than carrying a burner device or something
