Trump Team Has Full Meltdown Over CNN Story on ICE-Tracking App
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It's not about the store, it's about the notification.
As mentioned in the Time article:
the app is not available on Android because it "requires a device ID in order to send push notifications, which requires a user account and a password."
Its totally possible to send notification without having user account, see firebase.
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I want you to explain to me how when Google does it (allowing anyone with an app to report a speed trap - you know where law enforcement is present) it's legal but when some random developer who's not a multi-million dollar Corp does it, it's illegal and obstruction.
I'll wait for your list of case law.
Waze and Google maps don't let you report them for the purpose of helping illegal immigrants avoid law enforcement, or to tell people where to attack.
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They're not advocating violence, just reporting a fact. (A hammer is a tool, but also a murder weapon) But you do understand the power asymmetry of an unaccountable police force, right? And just how dangerous this is to civil society? There have been multiple accounts of excessive and incorrect deportations by ICE, with no visible effort to attempt to correct those problems. People are now using the meager tools we have left to try to enforce accountability, before there is only one last tool in the toolbox.
They’re not advocating violence, just reporting a fact.
lol no one believes that, not even you.
But you do understand the power asymmetry of an unaccountable police force, right?
How are they "unaccountable", and how is that even relevant?
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Nobody is crying about getting arrested. The fascists are arresting anyone they please without due process. The people risking their safety know the risks. ICE and the police are breaking the law by obscuring their faces and badge numbers, but you’re complaining about working class folks breaking laws written by the ruling class. Laws that they constantly ignore.
The fascists are arresting anyone they please without due process.
Anyone, or just those in the country illegally? Also law enforcement officers aren't "fascists" just because they're LEOs.
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While this is true, most people are not so tech savvy, maybe giving an option to mask app Icon to user choice can help it hide better.
While I agree, in this particular case I think it's a good idea.
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Is your name ironic? Seriously? Like you seem to be the biggest bootlicker around. And before you whine about me defending someone who's helping Al Qaeda, Hamas, North Korea, the Martians and whoever else you think is pouring across the US borders to kill us all let me just say, yeah I don't give a fuck.
Edited to say "the US borders" rather than "our borders" because this fuckwit arguing for the fascist US government is literally not in the US. Fuck off "mate".
Bit of a meltdown you had there mate. Are you ok?
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Is the app foss?
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That’s not how push notifications on android work.
That doesn't have anything to do with how you install the app.
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That doesn't have anything to do with how you install the app.
It has to do with receiving notifications from the app in a privacy-preserving way. Unless the app is running with a server connection 24/7 (RIP battery life) you need to rely on the OS to deliver notifications.
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I'm happy they're scared.
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It has to do with receiving notifications from the app in a privacy-preserving way. Unless the app is running with a server connection 24/7 (RIP battery life) you need to rely on the OS to deliver notifications.
You don't, there's privacy respecting ways of delivering notifications in android.
Also, a 24/7 connection to a server isn't nearly as bad as you might think.
The connection isn't active the whole time, it only uses any significant amount of battery if there's actually data being sent or received. You likely already have quite a few of them anyway, how do you think systems normally listen for push notifications?
Besides all that, I read in other comments that the privacy issue was the device id firebase needs. Obviously apple also needs some kind of device id, otherwise how do they know where the notifications are going?
Did some searching, yup apple also needs a unique identifier:
When it’s time to send a notification, you generate a request that contains the notification data and a unique identifier for the user’s device.
From https://developer.apple.com/documentation/usernotifications/setting-up-a-remote-notification-server
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dont they have site as well, just incase they decide to shut the apps.
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I love how the Streisand Effect works. They just made this app the hottest thing out there.
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Is the app foss?
No, and even worse, its only for apple devices lmao. These kids are so unserious in their activism it would be funny if it werent so sad. If shit hits the fan, this stuff will go down instantly and im sure it has no backup plan for a Tor based or p2p service. Activists in the US should start using Briar. This situation is exactly what it was made for and people have to get their tech game up fast or they will be done for. Get a shitty 80$ android phone if you only have an iphone. Install a panic trigger app that will wipe the phone if you are in trouble.
On ICEBlocks website it says:
Modeled after Waze but for ICE sightings, the app ensures user privacy by storing no personal data, making it impossible to trace reports back to individual users.
Which worries me, because if its closed source then thats a worthless promise and actually makes the app a perfect candidate for a honeypot or backdoor.
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I love how the Streisand Effect works. They just made this app the hottest thing out there.
It's closed source, and the build and publishing pipeline isn't transparent.
For me that makes this no different than a potential ICE honey pot
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Shouldn’t be an app. It should be a site accessible using vpn and private browsing with an appropriate browser. Nobody should have to worry about the Stasi finding the app on their phone regardless of the situation.
Can’t it be both?
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The fascists are arresting anyone they please without due process.
Anyone, or just those in the country illegally? Also law enforcement officers aren't "fascists" just because they're LEOs.
Anyone. Jesus christ have you not been watching the news? There have been countless American citizens detained by ICE because they don't know, or care, what your legal status is when they arrest you. They just grab Anyone.
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It's closed source, and the build and publishing pipeline isn't transparent.
For me that makes this no different than a potential ICE honey pot
which is exactly what this whole 'meltdown' frame for the pr hints at. republicans know how to use publicity stunts to get what they want.
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No, and even worse, its only for apple devices lmao. These kids are so unserious in their activism it would be funny if it werent so sad. If shit hits the fan, this stuff will go down instantly and im sure it has no backup plan for a Tor based or p2p service. Activists in the US should start using Briar. This situation is exactly what it was made for and people have to get their tech game up fast or they will be done for. Get a shitty 80$ android phone if you only have an iphone. Install a panic trigger app that will wipe the phone if you are in trouble.
On ICEBlocks website it says:
Modeled after Waze but for ICE sightings, the app ensures user privacy by storing no personal data, making it impossible to trace reports back to individual users.
Which worries me, because if its closed source then thats a worthless promise and actually makes the app a perfect candidate for a honeypot or backdoor.
apple is the majority of the market, no? so if e.g. a company wanted to get a product out for a client asap, apple would be the market to aim for.
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The fascists are arresting anyone they please without due process.
Anyone, or just those in the country illegally? Also law enforcement officers aren't "fascists" just because they're LEOs.
You asleep or something?
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