That's not simple. That's very specific, and you really listen for 10 solid hours? Also if you're dropping 10 hour flight money... I feel like there's a wireless solution in your price range

What's the use case for microSD slots on phones these days anyway?

If it's (just) to avoid paying Google or Apple storage fees, you can work around that by buying one or several HDDs to keep at home and sync stuff over the local network, possibly even build a server and access your stuff remotely.

I really don't understand the need for that much space on the go, though. Are you watching entire series on your phone?

And if it did have it you wouldn't have bought it either because the company is hypocritical. So why do you care? Why should they care?

The point is, the people who did buy it didn't care, and the people who care don't buy. It's a conundrum. Pair it with performance data of other phones that do have a headphone jack, plus the engineering compromises over other very important features. Then the decision makes sense. You lot aren't buying phones with headphone jacks either, so it isn't economically worth it. It's not like the motor g or the Asus rog phone are breaking sales records just on the headphone jack.

It's the same story as with small phones. People who aren't buying phones like to complain about phone size. But then when a small phone is made, no one buys it. Then the people who didn't buy the phone complain again, because the phone wasn't perfect for them.

It happens all the time, people are usually very vocal about things that actually don't drive their decision making.

Too bad LG got out of the phone biz. They had the best dacs and some good phones.

Not having a headphone jack is just a slap in the face from a company whose whole image is supposed to be longevity and eco-friendly.

Like I just said, my current 6.3" display phone is almost identical in size to my old 4.2" one.

You clearly didn't get the point. The cost isn't the only issue. There are downsides to wireless earbuds and I honestly do not prefer them most of the time. In my example, I'm using them the entire time because I don't want to hear airplane noises and yeah, I am playing something on them most of the time if I'm flying alone.

Also if you’re dropping 10 hour flight money…

Sorry but this is a very very dumb take. "if you spent a lot of money, you could spend MORE money". Really dude? The solution is just having a damn headphone jack, not spending money because corporations want you to.

2nd hand Samsung from 3 years ago is still better and cheaper.

Cheaper? Yes. Better? Hell no, unless you can root it and install a custom ROM.

Maybe you could start a competitor that produces a similar spec phone for $100?

No one has been using aux cable mobile headphones for the past 10 years. Headphone jack is e-waste at this point. bluetooth audio is great and if you really want to be a boomer you can use the usb C headphones.

how many times does the average person use wireless charging? Seriously, I haven't seen anyone do that yet, or know of someone who uses that.

and yet that's still a major feature in lots of phones

you use all five every week?

Alright what phone are you using with a jack?

Headphone jack is e-waste

you can use the usb C headphones

What the absolute fuck are you talking about? What am I supposed to do with the dozen wired headphones I already have? Some of them decades old? Throw them in the garbage? Sounds real eco-friendly.

bluetooth audio is great

It is. We had it on phones since before the original iPhone. No one wants to take that away.

Problem is BT headphones last 2 years then they go in the garbage because the batteries are dead. How eco-friendly is that!?

Fair enough, feel free to buy USB-C headphones then.

Edit: Time for the real reply.

I never have to charge my wired headphone.

But you still have to charge your phone. When I charge my phone I also charge my headphones. Most wireless headphones notify you in advance when they're running low, in my experience enough in advance to not run out before charging again. And finally, charging even once a day is still less overhead than having to manage wires every single time you use the headphones.

Nor do I have to buy new batteries or new headphones when they die

Yeah, you only buy new headphones when the wire gets damaged because that one time you didn't take good enough care of the wire. I personally had to buy a new set of headphones every year because I'm bad with wires. I'd either store them poorly because I was in a hurry or they'd get stuck on something and get yanked. My first BT headphones lasted me 5 years before starting to have noticeable battery issues and then I still used them for another 3 years before the battery was so dead it wouldn't live my daily commute.

overall my response boils down to "just use wired then" because the arguments are silly personal preference arguments and the wider consumer market has already decided that wireless is better. But if you want wired nothing is stopping you from getting USB-C wired headphones.

Yes if they've lasted decades thats their job done. Now people are buying usb C headphones and there is no need to continue to support decades old standards. The ewaste from a pair of headphones is tiny so its not worth fretting over.

Also BT headphones last longer than 2 years. Mine are 1st gen samsung buds and going on 5 years at this point and still hold enough charge to listen to music during my work day. If im going to be using them all day I have 1 in and 1 charging in the case and then I can easily have music for 10+ hours on a 5 year old device. If I threw them away today I would consider them to have not been ewaste.

Sony Xperia 5V

Wait... have you actually lost your mouse? Hilarious if true