Read through the whole report, sum up all the money they mention. It comes out to $16 000. Double that for the stuff where they don't mention money (because they surely would mention anything that costs more than the things they do mention). Double it again, for a safety margin. Double it again, because we are really generous. Now we are at €128 000. Divide that by the number of devices sold in 2024 and you get $1.24. Now add the $1.20 (Page 29) they pay as a living wage bonus and you arrive at $2.44 per device.

And now let's be super generous and double that guess again, and you end up with the <€5 per device that I quoted above.

The picture becomes clearer when you look at what they say about their fair material usage.

Take for example the FP5 (page 42 & 67). Their top claim here is "Fair materials: 76%", which they then put a disclaimer next to it, that they only mean that 76% of 14 specific focus materials is actually fair. On the detail page (page 67) they specify that actually only 44% of the total weight of the phone is fairly mined, because they just excluded a ton of material from the list of "focus materials" to push up the number.

The largest part of these materials are actually recycled materials (37% of the 44% "fair" materials). The materials they are recycling are plastics, metals and rare earth elements. That's all materials that are cheaper to recycle than to mine. You'll likely find almost identical amounts of recycled materials in any other phone, because it makes economical sense. It's just cheaper. Since these materials cost nothing extra to Fairphone, we can exclude them from the list, which leaves 1% of actually fair mined material (specifically gold), and 6% of materials that they bought fairwashing credits for.

Also, the raw materials of phones are dirt cheap compared to the end price. The costly part is not mining the materials, but manufacturing all the components.

With only 1% of the materials being fairly mined and only 6% being compensated with credits, you can start to see why in total they spend next to nothing on fair mining/fair credits.

Yeah wow, the problem with the phone that tries to compete with unethical big business is that unethical big entity is cheaper. Who would have thought

Like Kagi for web searching.

In addition to @timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works: I don't need pairing, I don't have to deal with bad reception, it's harder to loose wired ones and even if I loose them, new ones cost a fraction of bt ones.
Also I still have some wired ones.
The simplicity of simply plugging them in and it just works is something really abstract to alternatives.

Wireless charging

Okay? Literally nothing you said applies to USB-C headphones. Except for this part:

The simplicity of simply plugging them in and it just works is something really abstract to alternatives.

What about the price is simultaneous charging?

A thicker phone would be great. All these manufacturers forgot at some point we actually need to hold these things with a human hand.

Having said that my fp4 is actually a pretty good thickness. They just screwed that up by rounding the the edge so much seemingly to reduce contact grip.

To me a thicker phone doesn't help, but if it does for you then okey, that should exist.

Why "removed by mod"?
It does make them look stupid. statement of fact.

I'd jump immediately if it had a stylus.

How often do you charge your phone and listen to music at the same time? And is that really something you cannot compromise on?

One example - I charge it when using it for navigation in the car while at the same time listening to music.

I think I had this all wrong. Fairphone isn't / doesn't want to be an enthusiast DIY brand at all (like framework for laptops) but a mainstream brand that's eco-friendlier* and non-exploitative.

So of course they will not care much about niche features like other ROMs or audio jacks. The privacy focused, tech-savvy or feature focused buyers are not their target.

*IC and PCB related footprint is still roughly 80% of the FP4 and FP has little to no control on those processes, according to an independent study.

The cpu and mobo are one part, you cant replace just the cpu while keeping your old mobo. But every other part can be individually replaced.

You can see all replacement parts here: https://frame.work/nl/en/marketplace

You have headphones on in your car, listening to music, while you're driving? I hope you've checked your local laws because that is illegal in quite a few countries. It's also a very niche example as most people would use the car stereo instead of headphones.

Problem is, it is not IP68 rated, which is a dealbreaker for someone with an active lifestyle; especially since I sometimes manage to get water even into my IP68 phones. It would be good if they made a Pro model or just made the regular model more expensive since I will gladly pay for privacy and quality on a device that is on me at all times. For now I will stick to my Pixel 9 Pro.

That's what they're doing. That's why they remove the headphone jack in favour for a slimmer, lighter phone. Their market research showed that's more important to a bigger portion of their customers.

Still an idiot.

I respect your opinion, but I lived through 90s computing and think dongles died the death they deserve and these phone manufacturers can go to hell for bringing them back or thinking that bluetooth audio is good enough.

Additionally most of the droids I have bought that have a jack are the perfect thickness in my mind. Weighted enough to stay in my hand and take a couple dozen drops without accident. Plus the headphone jack is used as an antenna and provides radio capabilities so I can listen to local news instead of whatever the tech industry wants to feed me. Which is a nice option.