Good, I only want to pay for the parts that don't send my data to Google and their partners.

I don't follow? If you mean simplicity in terms of ease of use you might as well use BT headphones as you don't have to worry about any wire management. Ease of use is the main reason BT headphones are the go to for most people. No carefully packing the wires so it won't break, no accidental wiring mess or anything wire related. You just turn them on (which for most in-ear ones just means taking them out of the case), stick them to your ear and you're good to go.

If you meant anything else by simplicity you need to expand that idea.

There's at least two limitations that they've mentioned before with shipping outside of Europe.

First is they need extra certifications (e.g. FCC ones for selling to the USA), which are expensive and basically redundant. Probably not worth the business cost to do it and maintain it.

Second is they do carbon neutral shipping, which is hard to do when you have to cross an ocean. I know in Canada our national postal service can do carbon neutral for packages, but figuring that out for every country and the international legs of the shipping is a lot of work.

Part of the cost of being ethical is being at a disadvantage with capitalism, so while they're doing pretty alright they aren't going to grow like big tech did.

GraphineOS is more secure

People who want a headphone jack [...] are unfortunately a very tiny minority of the entire population.

People interested in paying more for fair trade materials and repairable phones are also a very tiny minority of the entire population.
Of course I don't have any statistic, but I would guess that the proportion of people wanting a Jack is significantly higher in the group of people interested in buying Fairphone that on the general population.

In my particular case, I'm still using my Fairphone 3, and I'm not buying a Fairphone again unless it has a Jack.

I dont understand Fairphone, flashy hardware with poor software security and awful sustainability (they stop selling parts quickly).

If they are all about swappable parts, and being able to upgrade your phone how you want ... Shouldn't this just be a module upgrade... Of the main part? Maybe I don't understand it ... At the very least the old parts should work with the new system right? Unless something major has changed.

I really respect Fairphone and I'm a happy owner of the Fairphone 5, but I find a bit puzzling for a company that suggests its customer should keep their phone for more than the 2.5 years average to release a new model just 2 years after the previous one.

Just my two cents, but they shoul've focused on developing either a tablet or a smartwatch to fill a gap in other markets before announcing yet another smartphone.

I never have to charge my wired headphones.

Nor do I have to buy new batteries or new headphones when they die.

Like I've said before- their market is small enough they should be trying to get everyone they can to buy it.

thanks for your sacrifice

New people enter the market all the time.

That update is for those that don't already have a Fairphone, presumably.

That said, I agree with your overall point. They should offer tablets and watches if they can.

Just out of interest, because I too love the jack, then what are you buying in the future?

You don't have to buy a new fair phone just because you bought the last one.

It's doubtful that someone buying a new phone now would want to buy the fair phone from 2+ years ago.

So a "phone" without any ability to connect to mobile networks or to WiFi?

If they didn't buy a previous fairphone, you're going to miss all the people who wanted to try it but didn't want a 5 year old phone tech. I imagine most people replace around 3-5 years due to battery degradation, people dropping their phones, or lack of updates

Thank you!

Fair enough, feel free to buy USB-C headphones then.

Edit: Time for the real reply.

I never have to charge my wired headphone.

But you still have to charge your phone. When I charge my phone I also charge my headphones. Most wireless headphones notify you in advance when they're running low, in my experience enough in advance to not run out before charging again. And finally, charging even once a day is still less overhead than having to manage wires every single time you use the headphones.

Nor do I have to buy new batteries or new headphones when they die

Yeah, you only buy new headphones when the wire gets damaged because that one time you didn't take good enough care of the wire. I personally had to buy a new set of headphones every year because I'm bad with wires. I'd either store them poorly because I was in a hurry or they'd get stuck on something and get yanked. My first BT headphones lasted me 5 years before starting to have noticeable battery issues and then I still used them for another 3 years before the battery was so dead it wouldn't live my daily commute.

overall my response boils down to "just use wired then" because the arguments are silly personal preference arguments and the wider consumer market has already decided that wireless is better. But if you want wired nothing is stopping you from getting USB-C wired headphones.

Are you a murican? Cuz you really sound like USA is your whole world.

So they should overproduce just in case? All I care about as a consumer is that I can buy replacement parts.