NASA ran the projects. They have specifications to contractors for manufacturing. That's a far cry from farming out the entire process and renting space on a commercial rocket.

Oh please. Elon will long be dead before we are ever seriously colonizing mars.

If you like SatNav, accurate weather tracking, and advanced intercontinental communication then ya like rockets ya dipshit.

While Id be the first to ban private rocket launches outright, we shouldn't abandon the advances of the space age because of them.

Rocket fuel is toxic. Don't cook with it. Don't touch or breathe it. Don't even look at it.

Once it's burned it's mostly safe, aside from the usual problems with combustion products.

You've got good points, but your needless insults makes your argument fall on deaf ears.

Hardly. Honda have just replicated what Falcon 9 has been doing every week for years.

It's less that people are putting faith in Elon (sure, some fanatics might be), but it's that everyone else is somehow even worse.

SpaceX is actually getting stuff to space, despite their prototypes blowing up. Hell, even if this Starship thing is a complete failure and never works, their existing rocket, the Falcon, is still far beyond any of the competition.

The SLS: $10 Billion and a decade late to develop a ship that recycles old Space shuttle parts, then costs $2-3 Billion per launch, and maybe can only launch one every 2 years.

ULA Vulcan: currently years late, still finding problems, and even after all that gets worked out, it can maybe do 6 launches a year?

SpaceX: 1-2 launches per week.

That's not faith, that's just facts. I would absolutely love to have somebody else step up and take SpaceX's crown, but... there really isn't anybody. Bezos's Blue Origin may have the biggest chance, but they are more likely to act like ULA than SpaceX.

We shouldn’t be building rockets PERIOD. They cost too much and are eventually only going to serve trillionaires.

FIX SHIT ON THE GROUND FIRST

That said,

They did a test from 300 meters, sure it’s cool but I think they have a LONG way to go before they are competetive.

You've got good points, but your needless insults makes your argument fall on deaf ears.

Ive only ever heard from third parties that spaceX sucks to work for because they way over work you. Idk if thats actually true. But this kind of thing makes me wonder…

good.

sad that he wasn't on it though.

Separating the message from the messenger is a key skill. A right answer doesn't become wrong because it comes from a jerk.

I think Honda has begun building spaceships/rockets too. Think they chose to build the type that don't explode. link

Separating the message from the messenger is a key skill. A right answer doesn't become wrong because it comes from a jerk.

Yep me being an uncouth asshole has little to no bearing on my point. It's like those uppity cunts who act like theyre better just cause they don't swear, usually they are morons I mean Mormons and thusly my inbuilt snob filter works wonders.