The Trump Administration is Building a National Citizenship Data System; State and county election officials can now check the citizenship status of their entire voter lists.
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but the majority of undocumented immigrants in the US don’t enter that way.
Doubt, especially given what we saw from 2021-early 2025.
You're free to go look at the statistics easily found, I'm not gonna do your homework for you. Were you at the border?
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Of all the things you could've said, that's what you chose to comment on? Don't start looking silly now and start arguing semantics. You came at this strong. What happened? Losing confidence all of a sudden when called out?
Anyway, I'd love that for you!
I don't know if you know, but generally speaking, an election is a vote held to choose who holds political power. And less commonly, it's used in the general sense to make a generic choice. I chose one definition over the other deliberately to make a distinction about the purpose of votes on a referendum or ballot initiative that are less commonly said to have been "elected". But you know, I won't get mad if you "elect" cake for breakfast over scrambled eggs. You do you, boo.
Of all the things you could’ve said, that’s what you chose to comment on?
Yes, I chose to comment on that because it shows you're arguing based on incorrect ideas.
And less commonly, it’s used in the general sense to make a generic choice
No it's not. You thought it was, but it's not. I'm talking about political elections, you're talking about voting to choose between options. Electing to choose something over another thing doesn't mean you held an election lol
Words have meanings, and you clearly don't know what the words you're using mean.
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You’re basically saying that everyone that can have anything to do with the database and systems around it are corrupt and working together.
No, just the person in charge has to order it. People do what their bosses tell them. Rules and procedures don't matter if the people in charge ignore them. And again, you're not getting access to any of the data we're talking about in the first place, because the government would have to grant that access, and you're not a person as far as they're concerned in this scenario. What organisations have you worked for that would just give out information to a person they can't verify the identity of?
That’s a ridiculous conspiracy theory.
No, it's happening now in the US. You seem woefully under-informed to be trying to comment on current affairs. Maybe stick to your own country until you're up to speed.
No, just the person in charge has to order it. People do what their bosses tell them.
No, they don't - not when it's illegal, and especially not when it's something like this. You guys always love to bang on about the whole January 6 thing where Trump supposedly ordered all sorts of things of the ballot counters etc - and they didn't do it, did they? People say no to their bosses all the time.
because the government would have to grant that access, and you’re not a person as far as they’re concerned in this scenario.
So the DOJ/FBI/CIA/etc never investigate anything internal? I'm not talking about me specifically lol.
No, it’s happening now in the US. You seem woefully under-informed to be trying to comment on current affairs. Maybe stick to your own country until you’re up to speed.
Wait so this National Citizenship Database already exists and is already being corrupted with legitimate citizens being deleted from it because they're not registered Republicans?! Where can I read more about this? How was it exposed? You just finished telling me that there would be no way to know, didn't you? So how do you know?
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You're free to go look at the statistics easily found, I'm not gonna do your homework for you. Were you at the border?
So you tried but couldn't find them, because you're wrong. Gotcha.
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Of all the things you could’ve said, that’s what you chose to comment on?
Yes, I chose to comment on that because it shows you're arguing based on incorrect ideas.
And less commonly, it’s used in the general sense to make a generic choice
No it's not. You thought it was, but it's not. I'm talking about political elections, you're talking about voting to choose between options. Electing to choose something over another thing doesn't mean you held an election lol
Words have meanings, and you clearly don't know what the words you're using mean.
Yes, I chose to comment on that because it shows you’re arguing based on incorrect ideas.
I investigate well before I reply. Do you really want to go there?
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/election
https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/election
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ElectionWords have meanings, and you clearly don’t know what the words you’re using mean.
You sure about that? Looks like you're the one struggling with reading comprehension. Either that or you're grasping at straws already.
Anyway, nice diversion. Just like you did last time.
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So you tried but couldn't find them, because you're wrong. Gotcha.
This took 30 seconds to find
Visa overstays have outnumbered people who enter the country illegally at the Southern border every year since 2007, according to a report by the Center for Migration Studies. The report's authors estimate that the number of total visa overstays was 600,000 more than the total number of border crossers and that in 2014, visa overstays accounted for two-thirds of all new undocumented immigrants.
Where Does Illegal Immigration Mostly Occur? Here's What The Data Tell Us
The Trump administration says there is a national security crisis at the Southern border. But most people in the country illegally didn't sneak across the border; they overstayed their visas.
NPR (www.npr.org)
This article has the most recent data I could find but if you look at the sources you can probably find better info. You're welcome to prove me wrong.
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This took 30 seconds to find
Visa overstays have outnumbered people who enter the country illegally at the Southern border every year since 2007, according to a report by the Center for Migration Studies. The report's authors estimate that the number of total visa overstays was 600,000 more than the total number of border crossers and that in 2014, visa overstays accounted for two-thirds of all new undocumented immigrants.
Where Does Illegal Immigration Mostly Occur? Here's What The Data Tell Us
The Trump administration says there is a national security crisis at the Southern border. But most people in the country illegally didn't sneak across the border; they overstayed their visas.
NPR (www.npr.org)
This article has the most recent data I could find but if you look at the sources you can probably find better info. You're welcome to prove me wrong.
2017, so before Biden opened the borders for all. Not really relevant in 2025.
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Jokes on them. I cancelled my voter registration the day after the last election.
gop dominated states regularly purge democratic voters from the rolls anyways, its also the reason why people rarely get jury duty form the states that are regularly purged.
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2017, so before Biden opened the borders for all. Not really relevant in 2025.
The trend has continued steadily since then, and furthermore,
Bier wrote in November that his work showed the Biden administration “has removed a higher percentage of arrested border crossers in its first two years than the Trump DHS did over its last two years. Moreover, migrants were more likely to be released after a border arrest under President Trump than under President Biden.”
Breaking Down the Immigration Figures - FactCheck.org
Encounters on the southern border of those trying to enter the U.S. without authorization have gone up significantly under President Joe Biden. Government statistics show that in the initial processing of millions of encounters, 2.5 million people have been released into the U.S. and 2.8 million have been removed or expelled.
FactCheck.org (www.factcheck.org)
This is from 2024, the DHS spokesperson at the time:
“Under this Administration, the estimated annual apprehension rate has averaged 78%, identical to the rate of the prior Administration.”
The idea Biden opened the borders is thoroughly debunked. Like I said you're the one telling me a bunch of bullshit so it's on you to disprove reality, I don't care enough to spoonfeed you the facts.
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The trend has continued steadily since then, and furthermore,
Bier wrote in November that his work showed the Biden administration “has removed a higher percentage of arrested border crossers in its first two years than the Trump DHS did over its last two years. Moreover, migrants were more likely to be released after a border arrest under President Trump than under President Biden.”
Breaking Down the Immigration Figures - FactCheck.org
Encounters on the southern border of those trying to enter the U.S. without authorization have gone up significantly under President Joe Biden. Government statistics show that in the initial processing of millions of encounters, 2.5 million people have been released into the U.S. and 2.8 million have been removed or expelled.
FactCheck.org (www.factcheck.org)
This is from 2024, the DHS spokesperson at the time:
“Under this Administration, the estimated annual apprehension rate has averaged 78%, identical to the rate of the prior Administration.”
The idea Biden opened the borders is thoroughly debunked. Like I said you're the one telling me a bunch of bullshit so it's on you to disprove reality, I don't care enough to spoonfeed you the facts.
The idea Biden opened the borders is thoroughly debunked
Haha good one.
Wait……you’re serious?
