If I thought that way about YouTube, why not just be a sovcit about laws in general? I don't want to cherry pick philosophy. Let's go all in on technicalities and loopholes and definitions and wording. Life is a video game where X leads to Y because that's the rules. YouTube is merely answering requests, and I'm merely watching a curated selection of data. They have a TOS but I never agreed to it. For I'm not a user or customer, but a Netizen, and we have rights.

Absolutely the same for me. The only reason I block their ads is because of how frequently they interrupt the content. It’s just unacceptably greedy. Pre-roll ads is fine, I get they have bills to pay too.

Haha, I would see Youtube go bankrupt before I ever watch a single ad or pay for it. Stay mad. Google is a massive corp, I owe them nothing.

Agree with this. For my business, and most customer facing ones honestly, Google is how people discover you. They are the modern day Yellow Pages. You don’t exist on Google and you may as well not exist. It sucks but they have that much of a stranglehold. This is why everyone is shitting themselves over Google using AI (it’s harder/unknown how to game).

Holy crap that’s cheap! Honestly, I’d pay that.

It’s the same mentality of, we shouldn’t mute ads or go to the bathroom when they come on. That’s the advertising businesses problem, not mine. They haven’t made life better for most of us and I refuse to feel guilty of depriving them of money.

about laws in general

Terms of Service aren't laws. Breaking them is not illegal. It's like using the waterslide while sitting and not lying on your back. In fact, it's explicitly legal to use an adblocker and control what happens on your device in both the EU and the US. There are ongoing debates whether the surveillance required for blocking adblockers is legal in the EU.

Google does break laws all the time by the way, and is holding a monopoly. If people had to pay for Youtube, alternatives would spring up overnight, but since you can still watch Youtube free, they can't.

Also, I'd be the happiest person if Google finally figured out how to block people with adblockers completely, so that the majority of people would wean themselves off of one of the world's biggest disinfo peddlers.

The trouble with that is that there is barely any money outside of YouTube.

Bro those Mf should’ve started doing that YEARS ago like…

They can upload to multiple platforms at once and still keep their YouTube money + grow an audience on a different website??

Yeah, some of the Linux Youtubers do that. With a channel on Peertube as well. And Science Youtubers often advertise Nebula.

I've been getting them over the last week or so on both Chrome at work (Ublock lite) and Firefox at home (UBlock Origin). It's just a popup telling me adblockers aren't allowed and then a second smaller popup saying something to the effect of "loading issues?" with a link as the video delays playing for a few seconds.

I learned the term sovcit. Interesting concept, it isn't mine though.

You sound angry because there are multiple point of views for a thing and I don't agree with your pov. I think i get the gist of your reply. But without arguments this discussion is bound to go nowhere.

You say I'm wrong by using adblocking. You didn't tell why.

• depriving content creators of their revenue. Yes. One should think about supporting them through donation platforms like Patreon. They get money from direct marketing (holy...) - I'm fine with that (no JavaScript, no tracking, I can skip ahead since I got the message the first time).
• depriving YouTube of the money they need to run their CDN. Partially. Bandwidth usage, maintenance costs. Should I mention that youtube sells/ licenses servers to ISPs... So they get paid by me, indirectly.
• TOS I didn't sign anything, there is no contract between me and YouTube. Or is there one?

Edit: this is not about me wanting you to take my view or wanting to be convinced by you. You may disagree or even despise me. That's fine.
Everyone has to decide for himself what's right and wrong and life with it. And maybe I have to rethink my decisions if there are aspects I didn't take into account or if I lied to me to justify my decisions.

YouTube can die in a fire and take its fucking premium with it.

You specifically said BitTorrent. Do you know how that works?

Youtube acting like it has anything to offer aside slop and people who think they're philosopher kings because they play video games.

No, but Plex can. I'd migrate to Jellyfin if you can as Plex started paywalling some of their services.

Sounds like projection but hey, you do you, it's not as if we can learn from video games right

Then support them monetarilly

We need to find ways to pressurize the content creators to upload to alternative platforms like Odysee, Rumble, Nebula, Peertube, Misskey etc...