[JS Required] EU Unveils DNS4EU, a Public DNS Resolver Intended as a European Alternative to Services Like Google’s Public DNS and Cloudflare’s DNS.
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Also Quad9 is Swiss which may actually better than EU?
This confuses the fuck out of me because my VPN in Switzerland using TLS DNS shows Germany as the country in DNS leak tests.
The Swiss DNS provider doesn’t have servers in Switzerland?
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Seems quite easy to remember with a nice jingle, like the emergency number...
0118 999 881 999 119 725
. 3.800 588 2300 Empire today
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I was wondering about some of the fuckery around piracy in the EU atm:
This project provides the European Commission with no means of censorship. Furthermore, this would be against the goals of the project, which aims to strengthen digital sovereignty. The EU will not have access to configuration, data, etc. On top of that, DNS4EU will not be forced on anyone. It will merely abide to local regulations required of internet service provider. In other words, DNS4EU is not a way toward censorship, but actually toward data protection and better internet security and sovereignty for Europeans.
So it will censor stuff as requested by governments
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Protective resolution ad-blocking
IP address:
86.54.11.13IPv6:
2a13:1001::86:54:11:13DNS over HTTPS:
noads.joindns4.eu/dns-queryDNS over TLS:
noads.joindns4.euWhy? Ao they can block what they deem to be a pirate site? Nope. Run your own Adguard Home.
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Switzerland has done a 180 on that. A new amendment would require all VPN services, messaging apps, and social networks to identify and retain user data.
Cloud service Infomaniak steps up fight with Proton over controversial Swiss surveillance law
Infomaniak criticised Proton's stance againt the amendment, causing a stir across the Swiss privacy tech sector
TechRadar (www.techradar.com)
This isn't implemented yet, sadly we also have stupid politicians like the rest of the world.
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IP address:
86.54.11.13IPv6:
2a13:1001::86:54:11:13DNS over HTTPS:
noads.joindns4.eu/dns-queryDNS over TLS:
noads.joindns4.euThe EU is already trying to block and censor ips via DNS, so I don't trust this initiative at all, nor, frankly, do I trust the EU as an organization. It should stick to foreign policy, not trying to overrule our national governments to force legislation onto us that we don't want.
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Cause they have nazi gold in their banks. Your data is belong to them. Don't be confused!
It's not just the nazis. Rich fucks from all over the world keep money there to hide it from authorities. Though I guess that's changing now.
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The EU is already trying to block and censor ips via DNS, so I don't trust this initiative at all, nor, frankly, do I trust the EU as an organization. It should stick to foreign policy, not trying to overrule our national governments to force legislation onto us that we don't want.
You should read their policy
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This confuses the fuck out of me because my VPN in Switzerland using TLS DNS shows Germany as the country in DNS leak tests.
The Swiss DNS provider doesn’t have servers in Switzerland?
Quad9 is a Swiss org, but it operates at hundreds of PoPs inside many different countries (anywhere PCH has a presence), their addresses are anycast so it'll use whatever the upstream routes/BGP dictate.
Both Quad9 and CloudFlare have the closest DNS for my network, at around 1ms RTT. However CloudFlare doesn't support ECS, so I use the alternate Quad9 service that does, since it gives me better performance on a number of CDNs.
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You should read their policy
That guy thinks that the EU is one entity, not consisting of many member states.
Also it sounds like he only read headlines. Otherwise he would know that the EU survelliance bill is a proposal, which any member state can make in a democracy.
Guess the propaganda got to him if he belives more what he reads in a headline instead of what actions the EU actually makes.
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You should read their policy
I have.
It includes "compliance with EU regulations" which in this case is soon going to involve redirecting and tracking visitors to sites such as thepiratebay.
Fully expect this to be a move to enable them to enforce this via blocking DNS providers that don't comply with censorship lists, instead directing people to use this.
I don't need an EU DNS, I already have OpenDNS.
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That guy thinks that the EU is one entity, not consisting of many member states.
Also it sounds like he only read headlines. Otherwise he would know that the EU survelliance bill is a proposal, which any member state can make in a democracy.
Guess the propaganda got to him if he belives more what he reads in a headline instead of what actions the EU actually makes.
The EU is one entity, consisting of several member states. Just like my own country consists of many regions and municipalities with their own elected officials.
Member states are forced to comply with legislation passed by the EU, even if a majority of the citizens of a state do not want to implement it. Technically there are two other options - sufferimg massive fines and punitive actions by the EU, or leaving. I'd rather not have to endure either of those, so instead I complain, loudly, online, to politicians, MPs and MEPs.
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The EU is already trying to block and censor ips via DNS, so I don't trust this initiative at all, nor, frankly, do I trust the EU as an organization. It should stick to foreign policy, not trying to overrule our national governments to force legislation onto us that we don't want.
This isn't really on topic but since you mentioned it, the only way for Europe to stay relevant is if we integrate more.
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This isn't really on topic but since you mentioned it, the only way for Europe to stay relevant is if we integrate more.
That depends on what you mean by integrate. There are many clear examples where it makes no sense to enforce homogenous legislation. Europe is a big place, and it makes sense to have different systems in different places.
Take tires for instance - in the Scandinavian countries we require winter tires for the season, something which would make no sense in Italy for instance.
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The EU is one entity, consisting of several member states. Just like my own country consists of many regions and municipalities with their own elected officials.
Member states are forced to comply with legislation passed by the EU, even if a majority of the citizens of a state do not want to implement it. Technically there are two other options - sufferimg massive fines and punitive actions by the EU, or leaving. I'd rather not have to endure either of those, so instead I complain, loudly, online, to politicians, MPs and MEPs.
Yeah, sure. Go complain about your life in the EU. Must be awful.
Maybe go outside and enjoy your privileged life in Europe.
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Why? Ao they can block what they deem to be a pirate site? Nope. Run your own Adguard Home.
Not sure about adguard, but unless you are running it with unbound or similar, you still have to point it at a DNS server someone else controls.
With unbound you go straight to the root hint servers.
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Quad9 is a Swiss org, but it operates at hundreds of PoPs inside many different countries (anywhere PCH has a presence), their addresses are anycast so it'll use whatever the upstream routes/BGP dictate.
Both Quad9 and CloudFlare have the closest DNS for my network, at around 1ms RTT. However CloudFlare doesn't support ECS, so I use the alternate Quad9 service that does, since it gives me better performance on a number of CDNs.
Right, I understand all that but I still can’t figure out why DNS is going to a 14 Eyes country instead of staying in Switzerland.
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Protective resolution ad-blocking
IP address:
86.54.11.13IPv6:
2a13:1001::86:54:11:13DNS over HTTPS:
noads.joindns4.eu/dns-queryDNS over TLS:
noads.joindns4.euA yes, a public dns resolver funded by taxpayers money and nothing of it is open source...
Sounds like a massive waste of money to me.
Just give someone like Mullvad (they already have a DNS service that is open source) that money instead of trying to be another shitty DNS Resolver.
Also the company behind this looks incredibly scummy and their products are mostly buzzword-bullshit.
The whole company is based on selling a DNS blocklist for as much money as possible.Also: https://www.whalebone.io/aura-for-consumers
People want to be safe online. They are even willing to pay for it. They just want their telco to offer them a smooth way to get there.
Common cybersecurity products struggle with low adoption rates due to the need for downloads. Whalebone Aura requires
no installation or updates and activates with a single click.That's sounds a lot like the ISP is implementing some kind of deep network inspection "to protect you from the internet"... aka censoring.
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Not sure about adguard, but unless you are running it with unbound or similar, you still have to point it at a DNS server someone else controls.
With unbound you go straight to the root hint servers.
Didn't know about unbound. Thanks.
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Right, I understand all that but I still can’t figure out why DNS is going to a 14 Eyes country instead of staying in Switzerland.
If it was a simple geoip lookup that isn't really reliable wrt anycast addresses (or even addresses in general).
9.9.9.9 for example gets reported as Berkely, CA (US). Which is only partially accurate, for complicated business holding and ASN reasons, but is not representative of what DNS PoP you're actually using at any given time.
