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Canada’s Bill C-2 Opens the Floodgates to U.S. Surveillance

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  • Can we talk about that? I've seen nothing about this, which is surprising.

    This is massive.

  • Can we talk about that? I've seen nothing about this, which is surprising.

    This is massive.

    So we have the EU and their bullshit (which also has global scope), we have credit card processors and their bullshit, now we have Canada and some.of their own bullshit.

    On one hand, we have been talking about the potential for full surveillance across the internet for a while, so this is hardly a surprise, but everyone all at once? What the hell is behind this new massive push?

    It seems that the response to this will be a lot of services moving to countries that dont give a shit about us/EU laws and a rise in cryptocurrencies. It will take a while before the common folks to get pissed enough to figure it out, but all things have limits.

    I presume there will be a patchwork of country-level blocks put into place, VPN blocks, tor filtering etc. This feels like the end of the open internet as we know it. It has been a greed fueled mess for a long time now, but this round of government invasion feels like the final knife in the chest.

    It will suck for users, it will be expensive for any company to maintain compliance, it will be horribly complex from a technology perspective if any of these layers break and it will be a goddamn nightmare to secure. Organized crime hackers are going to have a field day once they get access to all the stuff being monitored and logged. Encryption backdoors will take it to a whole new level.

  • Can we talk about that? I've seen nothing about this, which is surprising.

    This is massive.

    The wealthy are scared and they are directing their minions to implement this.

    You see things like this more and more, when the housing market in Canada really started shifting and climbing in costs, the same systems were put in place in the UK and in Aus, NZ. To me it seemed too coordinated, is the same everytime one of the 5 eyes starts something and tries to make it seem like it's to "protect the children" or whatever.

    They are so scared of the people riding up against the ultra wealthy, this is why it is being done. It is a coordinated effort, they debt it and try to pretend they are being strong against the TACO regime, but that is only a show for their citizens, when really they're putting all of this in place. They know their in trouble with all the lies and theft affairs their people, most likely mass layoffs are coming in the next few years and they want to be able to have a nice big list of names of who to go after.

    The entire political systems globally need to change to allow everyone to have a decent standard of living.

  • So we have the EU and their bullshit (which also has global scope), we have credit card processors and their bullshit, now we have Canada and some.of their own bullshit.

    On one hand, we have been talking about the potential for full surveillance across the internet for a while, so this is hardly a surprise, but everyone all at once? What the hell is behind this new massive push?

    It seems that the response to this will be a lot of services moving to countries that dont give a shit about us/EU laws and a rise in cryptocurrencies. It will take a while before the common folks to get pissed enough to figure it out, but all things have limits.

    I presume there will be a patchwork of country-level blocks put into place, VPN blocks, tor filtering etc. This feels like the end of the open internet as we know it. It has been a greed fueled mess for a long time now, but this round of government invasion feels like the final knife in the chest.

    It will suck for users, it will be expensive for any company to maintain compliance, it will be horribly complex from a technology perspective if any of these layers break and it will be a goddamn nightmare to secure. Organized crime hackers are going to have a field day once they get access to all the stuff being monitored and logged. Encryption backdoors will take it to a whole new level.

    This bill has me finally thinking about getting a VPN. Then I thought, which country would I send my traffic to, anyways? Seems many are going squirrelly at the moment, and it will only get worse over time.

    Might need to start finding onion sites to chat on, like old forum styles, and onion high seas etc.

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