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  • Imagine if people could choose what country they're browsing from.

    just MOOOOOOOOOVE

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    fuck the UK

  • All of this is precluded by you using a browser that is authorised and approved by the government.

    fuck any and all government that wants to limit what browsers we can use! the legislation should end at requiring websites to provide their classification in the headers. after that, it's the parents job to set up the device properly.

  • How did neo-liberalism make it to the left?

    I didn’t bother actually checking the individual points, because I was simply using it for illustrative purposes. The actual location of the points is largely up to interpretation, based on personal biases and viewpoints. For instance, plenty of .ml posters would likely object to calling Leninism highly authoritarian, or lumping it in with Maoism. But this particular compass does both of those.

  • There's a third option: taking responsibility as a community to educate kids on the harmful effects of being exposed to sexual content at a young age, and then letting them make that mistake if they really really want to. Put up a warning about how porn can damage the mind. And then give them the same freedoms as adults (when it comes to passive consumption), because restricting their freedoms would restrict everyone's.

    That's not a third option, that's the option I outlined in my comment directly above yours. You miss when you clicked a reply button, or something?

  • The precise location of individual points really depends on personal biases, but I agree that the “Republican” point is wrong on this chart; Pretty much all of America’s political discussion takes place on the right side of the graph.

    I think it's being used in the traditional sense, not the contemporary American sense.

  • So of all the fucking things to restrict, why this? Facebook is a hundred times more dangerous than any porn. Ban that shit instead.

    Because it’s something where the current government can claim they’re “doing something” or “addressing a real problem” but it also doesn’t threaten the rich and powerful.

    Going after Facebook would threaten the rich and powerful, for who it is an important tool for manipulating people, who think they can use it to mold culture to what they want it to be my breaking the minds of children.

    The current UK government is desperate to say to the public that they’re governing and fixing problems, but they also really don’t want to piss off the rich and powerful.

  • That's not a third option, that's the option I outlined in my comment directly above yours. You miss when you clicked a reply button, or something?

    Nah I don't see it.

  • Nah I don't see it.

    Must be an ironic nickname.

  • categories that could be questionable

    That still could vary greatly by country and culture, as one man's pornography could very well be another man's art. You would either need a great deal of near-duplicate categories or just label something as explicit the moment a single country pipes up about a woman not concealing her hair or something else that doesn't bother you one bit.

    ok, and I agree, but only very few parents will do that unfortunately. especially considering that their kids could be discriminated against by their limited clasates who don’t have their access so broadly limited.

    I suppose that we could at least be able to convince the parents that letting their children go unsupervised on the internet is like letting them go unsupervised in the big city. Totally fine if they're old enough to know what they're doing and don't stray too far from where they're meant to be going, but unacceptable if they're not so wise yet and aren't at least somewhat regularly checked up on. Children will always want the forbidden fruit, but their parents should restrain them until they understand why it was forbidden to them in the first place, and how to safely interact with it.

    and then, you still need such a whitelisting capability, which I think does not really exist today in firefox and such browsers. addons cant solve this because they can be removed.

    I'm not too well versed in this kind of software either, but I just looked up some parental controls services and they seem to offer device-level blocking of unwanted websites/apps/downloads/etc. Web browsers don't need to do the blocking, as the parental controls probably refuse the connections to the web domains.

    I didn't even mention all of this being completely bypassed if you used another website as a kind of proxy: go to proxywebsite.com -> it has a search bar -> use it to go to explicitwebsite.com -> proxywebsite.com returns the html, css, js etc of explicitwebsite.com without you ever visiting it -> profit.

    That still could vary greatly by country and culture, as one man's pornography could very well be another man's art. You would either need a great deal of near-duplicate categories or just label something as explicit the moment a single country pipes up about a woman not concealing her hair or something else that doesn't bother you one bit.

    that's right. but I don't think this system would be manageable for website owners if they wanted to comply with any and all countries laws. what if a country just bans any pictures about women? or something insensible like that.
    since this system is only for child protection, and wont be able to barr adults from accessing sites, I think it makes sense if a website owner only wants to be compatible with countries that have sensible laws for this purpose. like banning child access to any kind of porn, gambling, and such. I think the PEGI rating system could be used for this, it's been around for ages. but if a country has banned pictures that depict women in any way, they would just outright block that country, both because it would be very hard to deal with them anyways and because this is not supposed to be a censoring tool.

    I suppose that we could at least be able to convince the parents that letting their children go unsupervised on the internet is like letting them go unsupervised in the big city. Totally fine if they're old enough to know what they're doing and don't stray too far from where they're meant to be going, but unacceptable if they're not so wise yet and aren't at least somewhat regularly checked up on. Children will always want the forbidden fruit, but their parents should restrain them until they understand why it was forbidden to them in the first place, and how to safely interact with it.

    that sounds good, and things like this should go in place of TV and youtube ads, but it's very hard to reach so many parents without some kind of mandatory thing. and then, where I live I often enough see parents who have a baby stroller with a built-in fucking smart phone holder!! and guess what it is being used, the brainrot is flooding from them all the time. I guess that's their approach to parenting even at home. it would be especially hard to convince these parents that this is bad.

  • this will work until every country does this.

    Trying to get every country to do something is like trying to herd cats.

  • That's a political compass, and it's still missing several political axes.

    I guess one potential axis would be 'stagnation', in the sense that social mobility between classes stops changing. That could be anything like straight up caste systems, or informal stratification from wealth getting locked up by the 1%. I hypothesize, that such an axis would be a measurement of how 'elderly' a society is becoming. When politics become too locked in due to unchanging political critters, the ability for a society to recognize and properly act in a situation becomes compromised.

    My parent, they lost mental acuity and flexibility with the years, alongside their bodily agency, and have become quarrelsome. IMO, such dementia is what we are seeing in a aging America and the UK.

  • I didn’t bother actually checking the individual points, because I was simply using it for illustrative purposes. The actual location of the points is largely up to interpretation, based on personal biases and viewpoints. For instance, plenty of .ml posters would likely object to calling Leninism highly authoritarian, or lumping it in with Maoism. But this particular compass does both of those.

    So you made this one? I mean, this is the foundation of political compass memes, and I don’t think it should be dependent on personal biases, otherwise I would be pretty pointless. Like, the position of neoliberalism exactly contradicts the point you were making before about the left/right axis, where the state owns more on the left and less on the right. That neoliberalism is advocating for a state that owns nothing and provides for no equity is a fact and not up for interpretation. So in the end it just seems like a sloppy political compass meme and isn’t very helpful.

  • I guess one potential axis would be 'stagnation', in the sense that social mobility between classes stops changing. That could be anything like straight up caste systems, or informal stratification from wealth getting locked up by the 1%. I hypothesize, that such an axis would be a measurement of how 'elderly' a society is becoming. When politics become too locked in due to unchanging political critters, the ability for a society to recognize and properly act in a situation becomes compromised.

    My parent, they lost mental acuity and flexibility with the years, alongside their bodily agency, and have become quarrelsome. IMO, such dementia is what we are seeing in a aging America and the UK.

    Realistically one can come up with any number of axes and still be wrong, because the domain of politics isn't a metric space.

  • Trying to get every country to do something is like trying to herd cats.

    basically every country that '"matters"' implements some form of the DMCA

  • Part of me wants every website to do this. The UK just gets blocked from majority of the internet then people in the UK can get angry and rebel.

    The great firewall of starmer

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    Damn, U.K. is really getting destabilized fast. Law changes, immigration, censoring and now monitoring? Is this what happens when you leave EU and "lose" in the modern war?

  • basically every country that '"matters"' implements some form of the DMCA

    An copyright law is pretty similar in every country, or at least has a version of it. Japan's copyright law is so strict you can't even mention brands in media and has no version of fair use. It's why in Anime, when illuding to trademarks, it'll be something like "Sany" or "Destiny". This however, does not mean that I, in Scotland, am forbidden from making a video where I mention the words "Sony", "Disney", "Greggs", and "Tesco". Every country has different copyright laws and on the internet they seem to take a middle ground.

    Porn on the other hand is very different with very different laws and very different ideas. For example, Porn is illegal in South Korea. No "JAV" where genitals are blocked out, porn is straight up a crime. Where I live however, it is legal, albeit on the internet you have to go through an adult verification thing, which is easily bypassed. Each country does not have a universal standard law on pornography or what counts as such. There's proposed laws in the US for example which could see the mention of queer people as counting as "pornography". Not the depiction, just something like "Leonardo Da Vinci was gay". That's why people in the UK are worried because the law doesn't just cover pornography and covers "sensitive content", which, you know, could be defined at some point to include anything.

  • An copyright law is pretty similar in every country, or at least has a version of it. Japan's copyright law is so strict you can't even mention brands in media and has no version of fair use. It's why in Anime, when illuding to trademarks, it'll be something like "Sany" or "Destiny". This however, does not mean that I, in Scotland, am forbidden from making a video where I mention the words "Sony", "Disney", "Greggs", and "Tesco". Every country has different copyright laws and on the internet they seem to take a middle ground.

    Porn on the other hand is very different with very different laws and very different ideas. For example, Porn is illegal in South Korea. No "JAV" where genitals are blocked out, porn is straight up a crime. Where I live however, it is legal, albeit on the internet you have to go through an adult verification thing, which is easily bypassed. Each country does not have a universal standard law on pornography or what counts as such. There's proposed laws in the US for example which could see the mention of queer people as counting as "pornography". Not the depiction, just something like "Leonardo Da Vinci was gay". That's why people in the UK are worried because the law doesn't just cover pornography and covers "sensitive content", which, you know, could be defined at some point to include anything.

    idk why you responded to my comment with all that. Your first paragraph is, "yes, I agree, and here's another law that's also very similar in many countries"; which, ok, sure. But your second paragraph is completely unrelated to what I said.

  • My 5 year old son does have access to an android tablet, but i restrict, selectively, what he can do on it and time limit his usage so it locks down after a few hours. I curate his youtube and frequently spend time watching kids content to decide if i want him watching it. If its good and educational i will share it to his kids youtube account. He cant browse the web, he cant buy things on the play stores. He has to get me to approve any app install and i will always install first and play to ensure it safe.

    Its hard work, but its worth it to protect him online. And this has lead to it just being another one of his toys, it doesnt absorb his whole existence. He can take it or leave it. Which i am chuffed about.

    When he is older and i can help him understand for himself how to be safe, i will help him however i can. Rather than restric, i will help him understand what the internet is, the good the bad and the ugly.

    Good to hear a parent parenting ⭐

    I wonder how you’ll deal with a 16yo things get tricky with hormones, sex and rebellion.