This means, too, that Tesla hasn’t hit the milestone Musk promised back in January, when he told investors that the company would launch “unsupervised full self-driving as a paid service in Austin in June … no one in the car.”

Back in 2015 he claimed fully autonomous driving would be available in 3 years (by 2018) and since then it was always a year or two away. Why does anyone believe anything he says?

"From a technology standpoint, Tesla will have a car that can do full autonomy in about three years, maybe a bit sooner."

List of predictions for autonomous Tesla vehicles by Elon Musk - Wikipedia

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NO, it's not safe. They're designed by a nazi that only cares about profit, and doesn't give a shit about his nazi cars setting people on fire, or driving families off cliffs. After all the doors are locked, and can't be opened - of course.

Get these the fuck off the road.

Because people are, by and large, both forgiving to charismatic people and hopeful.

Sure, but Elon isn’t charismatic in the slightest.

Kind of disingenuous to say that. He has some sort of weird nerd charisma. Prior to him revealing how much of an asshole he is, he had way more people that thought he was cool, myself included.

I don't think Musk or Trump have any charisma, but apparently a lot of people see (inherited) wealth as charisma.

Trump has always been a petty shithead loser. He was mocked back in the 80s for being creepy around women, running failed businesses, and not paying his contractors.

Yet he has charisma for a certain demographic.

Yeah, morons who believe anything wealthy people say. Just like Musk.

No it isn't.

The only way for someone to think he was some awkward autistic rizz master. Was to be fooled.

At one point it was possible to not be paying attention. Getting distracted by the smoke screen etc. But even the most basic look into him and his history. No one would ever mistake him for someone with charisma or talent.

I would argue that the charisma is what allows him to fool people and put up that smoke screen, and you can't argue that many have not been fooled.

Honestly at this point, I'm not sure which has the greater cost to life. I'm starting to think, maybe this is the fastest way to tangently demonstrate how fucking full of shit this guy is. He blows up a few space ships, no one's directly effected. Maybe running over one or 2 kids directly with a robo taxi will wake enough over to "maybe we shouldn't let this guy kick tens of thousands of americans off healthcare."

(not saying this is a good thing, but of a trolly problem. Musk has spent hte last 6 months getting in positions to do horrible things to so many people, and god knows how many deahts he's responsible for. Maybe if he messes up and does a few of the kinds of deaths that people get scared over and take action, than things will go better.

Unless you consider money charisma. I really can't agree with you or understand where you're coming from. Anyone who's ever known the man as a peer or personally pretty much universally hates him for good reason. Including his Ex-Wives, his father, even his children, and that ghoul Peter Thiel.

People liked the concept of boosted Space travel, Electric vehicles, etc. Musk was smart to invest in them. But he had no contribution of note to any of those companies other than his money. No one ever cared for musk anymore than that. And then once his erol-ness was on full display finally the people who had been fooled had to acknowledge reality.