With that level of indirection gymnastics, you can accuse anyone of anything.

(This comment written in the language of a brutally colonizing and genocidal empire.)

I would say go with whatever company that doesn't have a CEO throwing Nazi salutes.

I have no doubt most CEOs are psychopaths, but they also don't own a global Nazi mouthpiece like twitter

So did you mean "CEOs not throwing a Nazi salute" or "CEOs whose Nazi salutes don't show up on your twitter feed"?

It seems you forgot what your argument is in a span of two rebuttals

You definitely sound like your advocating for musk.

You should work on your reading comprehension then

GASP!

You mean... Proper capitalism!?

With my cheap over night tarrif (UK) I pay approximately 2p a mile, I'm planning a road trip to Europe soon and have calculated with a pay for discount EV charge card, I'll average about 14p/mile. I'm saving between £60-£80 a month compared to my old diesel car, which pays off the charger install ~£900 in a year. Diesel price have dropped in the UK since I got mine.

For servicing it's coolant every 3 years or so, and that pretty much it. We have a MOT in the UK, for every vehicle over 3 years old, then yearly, that covers more than what is needed on the yearly services for my car. Only thing it doesn't cover is lubricate the charge port, but I think I'm ok with that

Also the cabin noise is almost silent, no gears, constant predictable acceleration, and I can plug anything I want in to the 240v outlet in the back seat

This admin has set the USA back 100 years.

Again. They already enshrined "billionaires get all the money" in the one legislative victory of trumps first term.

as customers switch to Chinese EVs

Sure. That's the reason.

Telsas total european market share this month is 1.2%, down from 1.8% last may. The chinese market share is 5.9%, not 5.6%.

5.9% vs 1.2% is a 5x sales rate for chinese cars versus Teslas. According to the article, china doubled its EU market share in the last year, while Tesla lost 30% of its market share in the same time period.

The title is not sensational. If anything, your comment is a bit misleading by not listing the tesla EU market share.

Okay there's a ton of spyware in the car, but - just . . don't . . . connect it. Or whatever.

I did not forget my argument. I think the world would be a better place without CEOs in general. If you really think every CEO is a Nazi in sheep's clothing, then you should probably get your head checked.

As far as I know a corporation isn't the government of China and doesn't have much say over the Chinese government committing their own genocide.

My reading comprehension is fine, you're just comparing Nazis to oranges.

I also don't use the cesspool that is twitter.

I really don't. Putin, Kim Jong Un, Xi Jinping, all are actual threats. Musk doesn't even register.

My government just added a controversial extra tax on EVs because they tear up the roads and cause additional particles, because they are really heavy and most of them have a better than usual torque.

You can really see how road quality went to shit after EVs became mainstream.

Making batteries is also a really ugly business and far from environmental.

I don't think that's what they meant. I think they are just saying that people are still buying EVs, but they are just going to Chinese and other manufacturers instead of buying a Tesla. The article specifically calls out the stupid shit Elon has been doing.

Root for better public transport and active cities instead of car dependency

We are in the middle of a crisis. You don't need an other reason.

You can either look ugly in an EV or drive straight towards dystopia in a cool looking ICE vehicle.

How many of those got up on stage with the seal of the president of the United States and did one of the most identifiable actions of the last true fascist regime? musk was able to spend $250 million to pretend to be president for a few months to kneecap the US government and kill all the investigations into his illegal dealings as well as reward his companies with lucrative government contracts. I'd love to see any of those tinpot dictators and "communist" leaders do that.

Putin is the head of the paper tiger Russia. If they didn't have nukes the US probably would have steam rolled them back in 2014 when they took Crimea. If the world actually gave Ukraine the weapons and resources to do it, I have no doubt they could be at Moscow's door in a couple months.

Kim Jung Un is the head of a pariah state who relies on worldwide aide so that his people don't starve more than they already are starving.

Sure Xi is the head of the state in which there is obviously genocide happening, but he's not running a car company, which is what this whole article is about.

Ah. Good to know- I didn't read the article, but that's kind of my point, really. Most people don't, and media outlets know that. The headline is all that "carries". A better headline would include the Nazi stuff AND Chinese EVs. I think they deliberately avoided that and tucked it in the article.

Which is important because about a year ago the headlines were saying EV sales were collapsing. In fact, it was just Tesla having less market share of new EVs sold because other manufacturers got off their ass.

I live in an area where half the vehicles on the road are pickup trucks and giant SUV'S. A KIA EV2 isn't doing any added harm to the roads here.

That is not even remotely why they added a tax on EVs. The reason they added the extra tax is because they make a ton of money by taxing gas and as EVs are gaining popularity they're starting to see their tax revenues plummet. There is a nugget of truth in that some of those tax revenues are used to pay for maintaining the roads and that EVs do still put wear and tear on the roads, but it's not that they're destroying roads any more than any other car does.

If you're seeing a drop in road quality it's because your government isn't paying to have the roads maintained like they have in the past, not because there are more EVs driving around.