Report: Microsoft's latest Windows 11 24H2 update breaks SSDs/HDDs, may corrupt your data
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Honestly, translations are one of the few things LLMs are good for. It can catch things like idioms or other things a machine translator may mistranslate. Though tbf, the main appeal is still live translation.
I want my Babbelfish.
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Yesterday I got into the process of installing Windows 10 onto my laptop because I am selling it tomorrow. I asked the buyer if he wanted it with an OS or not, and he replied that he wanted Windows 10 Pro. I downloaded the ISO and installed it to one of my M.2 SATA SSD drives with a USB adapter.
Before installing Windows over my Linux installation, I did a SecureErase to wipe out my drive with the Linux installation because that is the SSD I am selling with the computer.
After installing Windows 10 from the M.2 SATA SSD with a USB adapter to the SecureErased drive, I instantly got multiple error messages about SMART checks saying that the SSD was broken/corrupted. I had never seen this POST error message when booting that computer with a Linux installation.
Well, I obviously had to change the drive to another one where I got the Windows installation to work normally without the BIOS POST error message.
I really cannot be sure what caused that. Can SecureErase do that so SMART checks report the drive as corrupted? Or was it the Windows installation?
SecureErase would overwrite the whole drive (potentially multiple times). So if the ssd was close to dead, it might have just triggered it.
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the 16-bit Windows on Windows subsystems, which allowed 32-bit versions of Windows to directly run 16-bit DOS and Windows programs
Jesus, what a scam. Why does anyone put up with this?
IMO, the Windows Subsystems is kind of cool. WSL 1 used it too.
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many have to - work from home, have to share data and programs with other workers. There are of course ways around it but I know literally thousands of people who are supplied with a company laptop with windows on it and they have to use it...
Huh, sounds to me like bad security and data integrity policies/practices from whatever company, probably not very well run places to work for.
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I'm not using any software that doesn't have an upward swipe gesture for jumplists. How can people stand losing features like this?
I'm also gonna sarcastically cherry-pick!
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Huh, sounds to me like bad security and data integrity policies/practices from whatever company, probably not very well run places to work for.
You realise that most companies still run on Windows don't you? I'm in the UK and there is around zero companies that use anything else... here they got rid of Macs because of the hassle of supporting them and windows. Plenty of companies won't let you use a Mac to work with either
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That update made me buy my first Framework laptop! Fuck Microsoft!!
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Yet again - headline and article are massive overexaggerations, talking about an issue that a few people have had in very specific situations and saying it breaks everyones SSDs/HDDs and might corrupt their data to get people like you to get outraged and spread FUD.
Remember - if even 0.01% of people on Windows 11 get an error with an update, that is like 100k people. A 0.01% error rate is nothing. It's not even worth mentioning. It's not even worth investigating. Sure it sucks for those 100k people, and they'll be complaining to everyone that will listen - but it's not a big issue. That's this. That's this exact thing.
Wow, with a mentality like that, you're a perfect fit for medical school.
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SecureErase would overwrite the whole drive (potentially multiple times). So if the ssd was close to dead, it might have just triggered it.
I see. Well the SSD was used and few years old. Some Samsung SSD from a OEM build. I did run SMART tests on it like year ago and it was ok/healthy.
Time to fill it with linux isos and seed them with torrentz until it breaks completely.
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The reporter’s own “test” proves this is caused by faulty drives unable to sustain the speed they advertise, not Windows.
Why would IO speed be a factor in whether a user's data is corrupted? That just sounds like a race condition.
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Butbutbutbut Linux is not ready for desktop! I asked a stupid question in an Arch forum and they told me to RTFM! It does not support kernel level anti-cheat! Terminals are scary!
Etc, etc.
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So you're saying I'll be safe from this if I stick with win 10 past October?
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You realise that most companies still run on Windows don't you? I'm in the UK and there is around zero companies that use anything else... here they got rid of Macs because of the hassle of supporting them and windows. Plenty of companies won't let you use a Mac to work with either
Yep I do realize that.
And I still have the same opinion.
You're in the UK, so you're not bound by GDPR... but a whole lot of places and orgs that are bound by GDPR realize that MSFT products indeed are a joke from a data security standpoint, and are actively transitioning to linux or at the very least FOSS software.
I am in the US.
I literally used to work for MSFT, a few of their different locations around Seattle.
They are a fucking insane mess, internally, organizationally.
I worked with people, old timers who'd just casually tell me:
'Oh yeah back before Desert Storm, I was out in Saudi Arabia flashing the BIOS of computer hardware that was bound to be installed in Saddam's C&C and Air Defense Radar networks, some months later when time came for the air sorties, somebody else just flipped a switch and down goes all their radars!'
Aka a supply chain attack.
Aka, unless your definition of 'data security' is 'the NSA has all my data', then MSFT products are rather dubious at providing data security.
Like uh, did your org completely remove Copilot?
... Are you sure about that?
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Yep I do realize that.
And I still have the same opinion.
You're in the UK, so you're not bound by GDPR... but a whole lot of places and orgs that are bound by GDPR realize that MSFT products indeed are a joke from a data security standpoint, and are actively transitioning to linux or at the very least FOSS software.
I am in the US.
I literally used to work for MSFT, a few of their different locations around Seattle.
They are a fucking insane mess, internally, organizationally.
I worked with people, old timers who'd just casually tell me:
'Oh yeah back before Desert Storm, I was out in Saudi Arabia flashing the BIOS of computer hardware that was bound to be installed in Saddam's C&C and Air Defense Radar networks, some months later when time came for the air sorties, somebody else just flipped a switch and down goes all their radars!'
Aka a supply chain attack.
Aka, unless your definition of 'data security' is 'the NSA has all my data', then MSFT products are rather dubious at providing data security.
Like uh, did your org completely remove Copilot?
... Are you sure about that?
You realize a lot of software still only runs on windows, right? So its not even a choice for a lot of business.
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Wow, with a mentality like that, you're a perfect fit for medical school.
First of all, false equivalency. Second, this isn't new and didn't just start happening again. Its never stopped happening. Windows update is fucking atrocious. Its always been atrocious. Its always been the single worst part about using windows for the vast majority of users.
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Yesterday I got into the process of installing Windows 10 onto my laptop because I am selling it tomorrow. I asked the buyer if he wanted it with an OS or not, and he replied that he wanted Windows 10 Pro. I downloaded the ISO and installed it to one of my M.2 SATA SSD drives with a USB adapter.
Before installing Windows over my Linux installation, I did a SecureErase to wipe out my drive with the Linux installation because that is the SSD I am selling with the computer.
After installing Windows 10 from the M.2 SATA SSD with a USB adapter to the SecureErased drive, I instantly got multiple error messages about SMART checks saying that the SSD was broken/corrupted. I had never seen this POST error message when booting that computer with a Linux installation.
Well, I obviously had to change the drive to another one where I got the Windows installation to work normally without the BIOS POST error message.
I really cannot be sure what caused that. Can SecureErase do that so SMART checks report the drive as corrupted? Or was it the Windows installation?
Windows bad because I made a user error
Hm...Weird way to shift blame.
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Every time I try switching to Linux I run into some issue I just cant fix and go back to windows, currently pirated win10 IOT LTSC. Last time it was getting the USB ports to recognize an ESP32, the time before that graphics card drivers, the time before that it would either take ages to boot or not boot at all, the time before that software I couldnt get to run.
Maybe try another distro? Mint 22.1 works just fine right out of the box, and at this point Claude provides actual support better than scouring 3 forums in case you need small tweaks. Other than some proprietary fingerprint reader I never use, every machine I've used it on has been fine.
You can just do a live install from USB and test it before even installing.
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Butbutbutbut Linux is not ready for desktop! I asked a stupid question in an Arch forum and they told me to RTFM! It does not support kernel level anti-cheat! Terminals are scary!
Etc, etc.
It does not support kernel level anti-cheat!
Huh, thought you were mentioning only the cons.
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I'm also gonna sarcastically cherry-pick!
Are you? I didn't see it. If you're trying to make the opposite point, why don't you cherry pick the other way. Let's see what you've got or if this headline is just bullshit.
I'm currently running 50/50 windows/Ubuntu. I'm no Windows fanboy. But I'm also a software dev and I understand deprecating useless shit, something Windows doesn't do much of.
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Butbutbutbut Linux is not ready for desktop! I asked a stupid question in an Arch forum and they told me to RTFM! It does not support kernel level anti-cheat! Terminals are scary!
Etc, etc.
You jest but would you really install Arch on your grandmother’s PC?
