He doesn't have to follow orders from you.

And/or it brings out the worst people

I deleted my FB in 09 because of the social expectations and toxicity that came from it. Definitely in my top 10 best decisions of my life.

There was this new technology in the 80s that took over in offices. It became so ubiquitous that people bought the machines to have at home, and it found a less-than-optimal use-case as a general communication device. In the 90s, as its popularity boomed, it would be totally reasonable to make the same assessment you just made, that they would never go away. But when was the last time you used a fax machine?

You use(d) Facebook to stay connected. I use Facebook (with any empty profile) to engage/troll Trump supports. We are not the same.

But seriously, it's interesting to use it to delve into the right wing zeitgeist.

For example, do not believe the narrative that they are upset about the Epstein list. They've been given marching orders to blame it on Biden "because if there was something there why didn't Biden release it" and "a liberal just withheld the grand jury testimony, so it's their fault" -- don't bother with the reality or nuance around of any of this, it doesn't matter to them. They are a cult.

These are the type of people who would dismiss their own child coming forward with moleststion claims and allowing the abuse to continue. I am not exaggerating here. I had one demand physical evidence of Trump raping children; literally demand child porn be distrusted to them before they'll be convinced. reshift the goalpost.

Im sorry, I dont feel like your comparison is relevant. Until something exists thats brain dead easy to use and has a ton of backing like fb, it will be required to have it for any community involvement in a lot of places.

Remember, the internet is scary now and people only want spoonfed services from massive corporations. Anything else is scawwyy.

Not as brain dead as an fb page xD there's tons of businesses solely using fb.

I love papers, but I can name about 1 other person who reads the paper in my town, and theyre dead because they were 98.

NO ONE reads papers anymore. Very few look at flyers in public either, they stare at their phones no matter where they are.

The only way is for a new service to come out that every single person jumps on. That wont happen, so we have fb, and will have fb for 20 more years. Look at Craigslist, no one touches that since marketplace exists, there's no reason to, and its more dangerous since you cant see a profile of a person (yes, those could be fake but that takes effort)

I should clarify i HATE fb and most social media besides lemmy I will not use. But when EVERYONE is on fb, you cant just deny using it, unless you want to have no friends or involvement.

I only created an account out of social pressure and never understood what others get out of it, I don't even want to look at my own pics why would I care to look at my friends or any other posts they make for they matter and that was back when Facebook wasn't just a content feed and actually showed you your friends updates.

It's not just a matter of the company's capabilities. Sometimes the customers demand it.

Very recently a group of moms I know was upset because their plans were weather dependent and the water park they were heading to only posted the closure on their official website and not on facebook!

Yeah we're all tech gods and they are dummies har har etc. And fortunately my work lets me work at quiet offices and at home. But I feel for the people who have to serve them, because the public IS filled with dummies, but many of them are just nice people who are trying to do business with you. And of course a large subset are cunts, which makes the ignorant decent people get much worse service.

This just reminded me about reading in an article how at some point Musk said he wanted to make X be the everything app. For many people, Facebook is already much further in that direction. That's where they get their news, text or call their friends, do their shopping, plan their events, doom scroll, argue with strangers, etc. They might never leave it if TikTok wasn't so deeply soaked into their neurons.

Needles to say, these people are exactly the type of conservative or recovering conservative people who should be far away from facebook. And I'm not excusing them. But I can at least understand the position folks trying to do business with them are in.

Well.. YOU could read papers. YOU could look up from your phone and notice the flyers.

The possibilities are there. There are other ways to get info about local events than from fb. You don't have to wait for everyone else to pick up a paper.

Ps. I have plenty of friends and involvement, which most of my current social circle I gathered after moving alone to a new city, without using social media. I lost a lot of acquaintances by leaving fb, but none that I actually miss. My friends are the ones I put effort into keeping in touch with.

People exist offline. We've done so for millennia, and still do.

Omg thank you for sharing this.

I’ve been telling people they have tech using advanced AI that serves you a post to make you feel exactly how they want you to feel.

It’s really effective on X. narratives play out for long periods of time.

They could convince everyone the sky was red if they wanted to.

Right, but im 1 person in a sea of millions who dont use papers, dont know what a cd is, dont go on any sites besides x and fb.

Its a losing battle. Even my friends are far too tech illiterate to do anything like matrix or signal (plus theyre afraid of it anyways). It sucks that WE know better but have to abide by what most of society uses if you want to be involved.

Facebook is cool but did u have a MySpace?

We need to take down the social media mafia.

Only reason I have Facebook is Facebook marketplace. Would love for some to create a alternative. Craigslist and OfferUp are nice, but the Facebook algorithm is more like local ebay. It might not tell me the most recent stuff or make it easy to sort by category, but it's awesome at giving me recommendations.