Well not actually lost... I just haven't found under which furniture it rolled yet

love fairphone but i cant go bacl from graphene os. its so nice not having google attacjed to everything.

I don't really care about sound quality when using earphones at home because I only use them when there's a lot of ambient noise so the sound will be bad either way. When doing vacuum cleaning, or the dishes, stuff like that. When I still had a smartphone I used a 1,5m extension cord so it wouldn't pull on the jack each time I move, but since it died I'm using a much longer one plugged to my PC (not actually 10m, that was hyperbole, more like 5m). It's not very convenient I'll admit, but it does the job.

They've always made phones...

Obviously not, the poor spec choices led to the price. Perhaps the company claiming to focus on ethics could focus on ethics instead of bezel-less design and 120 Hz screens, thus bringing it in at a lower price point. Feel free to critique me now

Not in the US apparently

If I've asked a question twice and you've danced around it both times, that tells everyone what your answer is.

If you want something not Google, I used to have Ubuntu Touch on a Fairphone before Australia's 3G network was switched off. It would have to be an older Fairphone however.

You know you've got not argument when you have to compare a $700 dollar phone to a $5 dongle for your argument to even make sense.

First of all, I seriously doubt any $700 phone without a 3.5mm port is going to have a decent DAC, because there's no reason for it. In those phones the DAC is used primarily for phone calls. If those phones had a a 3.5mm port and they were flagship phones then maybe they would have higher quality DACs in them, but then they'd also cost more. And secondly, I wasn't talking about some cheap $5 dongle, I specifically said quality headphones.

Why aren't you complaining about the removal of a keyboard? Or the removal of SD card slots? Or the removal or the IR light? Or the notification light? or something else that used to be there but isn't now. Why is the 3.5mm port so special it deserves constant complaining about almost A DECADE LATER? Why must you be these grumpy old men who can't fucking move on with the times.

I don't really care if the port is there or not, I'm just fed up with the constant whining about it. It's gone, the ship has sailed. The majority are more than happy to use wireless headphones, 3.5mm is a niche in the mobile space. There are alternatives if you really like wired headphones. What makes 3.5mm such fucking hill to die on? Nothing. It's just petty conservatism of people unwilling to move on with the times.

I made the mistake of believing that Fairphone is an enthusiast company, like the Framework of phones maybe. There is some overlap, sure, with the repair-ability aspect and available parts and schematics, but that's about it.

Other than that, FP wants to be a mainstream brand, the eco-friendly Samsung or Apple; the power users can get shafted with their audio jacks for all they care. While Framework has actual hardware modularity and release updated HW modules so you don't buy the whole device again for an upgrade.

Looking at FP's financial statements, I get the impression they aren't doing too hot lately, so I get it if they need bigger margins to continue operating. Just don't be a fucking hypocrite and lie about the reason of the jack removal ffs.

Yeah, my current bluetooth headset has that option, and i keep a cable in reserve. the ones i had to replace were mostly in my teens/tweens, and were still cabled in-ear style - easier to hide under clothes and hair, but also no cable replacing if you don't know much about how to solder. TBH, if i had to decide i would not go back to cabled headphones at all - it's simply too limiting and irritating to deal with, especially with multiple audio sources. When listening to music the latency is not important (and has improved a lot in comparison to the humble start), and it's been a while since i had phones which had sound quality issues because of bluetooth.

Are we forgetting that companies also have their own bias to make the decisions that increase overall profits? They lost buyers (me included) by this change, but they made up the difference by selling higher margin accessories. Companies will only cater to users if it aligns with turning a bigger profit. If adding an anti-feature is better for the bottom line, then that's how it goes. Enshittification doesn't happen accidentally, but by pushing the boundaries of what the users tolerate.

This this this.

They want to sell their buds and headset.

don't misunderstand me, those are great repairable bluetooth devices, but if i were to not have a headphone jack and just a "long lasting repairable phone" , i'm sticking to my Google pixel.

I understand all of that and I agree with you. Not wanting to pay monthly storage fees is perfectly reasonable too. I know I did everything to avoid giving Google any money for storage.

But microSD slots on phones aren't coming back, and manufacturers are giving you 512GB of internal storage at most, so we need to move on with the times.

I don't have a home server (yet) either, but I do have 2 TB disks I use to store all the important stuff I want to save forever. Nothing lives on my phone so I'm fine with 128GB.

Local syncing can be done just by installing Syncthing or Omnisend, and everything gets transferred through your home Wi-Fi. No need for complicated setups. I mentioned home servers as an example but you certainly don't need one.

MicroSD cards also die so I don't know why you used that as a slight against internal phone storage. You should always have backups.

Storage is dirt cheap these days, it makes no sense to hinder yourself buying niche phones, often at inflated prices, just for a feature that is easily worked around. In my opinion.

They want to sell their buds and headset.

Not sure if it still is that way, but when i bought my FP4 years ago, free buds were included.

I wish I could ditch stock android but my business bank app refuses to run on e/os and I assume I'd have the same problem with graphene.

e/os was otherwise soo much better, and the increase in performance and battery life was huge.

how many people care about the source of the materials?

the 3.5mm jack still exists on low to mid-range phones, the high end ones were the only ones that removed it and then mid-range phones copied it.

Maybe phones shouldn't have multiple cameras if they aren't actually usable