Report: Microsoft's latest Windows 11 24H2 update breaks SSDs/HDDs, may corrupt your data
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Yep I do realize that.
And I still have the same opinion.
You're in the UK, so you're not bound by GDPR... but a whole lot of places and orgs that are bound by GDPR realize that MSFT products indeed are a joke from a data security standpoint, and are actively transitioning to linux or at the very least FOSS software.
I am in the US.
I literally used to work for MSFT, a few of their different locations around Seattle.
They are a fucking insane mess, internally, organizationally.
I worked with people, old timers who'd just casually tell me:
'Oh yeah back before Desert Storm, I was out in Saudi Arabia flashing the BIOS of computer hardware that was bound to be installed in Saddam's C&C and Air Defense Radar networks, some months later when time came for the air sorties, somebody else just flipped a switch and down goes all their radars!'
Aka a supply chain attack.
Aka, unless your definition of 'data security' is 'the NSA has all my data', then MSFT products are rather dubious at providing data security.
Like uh, did your org completely remove Copilot?
... Are you sure about that?
You realize a lot of software still only runs on windows, right? So its not even a choice for a lot of business.
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Wow, with a mentality like that, you're a perfect fit for medical school.
First of all, false equivalency. Second, this isn't new and didn't just start happening again. Its never stopped happening. Windows update is fucking atrocious. Its always been atrocious. Its always been the single worst part about using windows for the vast majority of users.
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Yesterday I got into the process of installing Windows 10 onto my laptop because I am selling it tomorrow. I asked the buyer if he wanted it with an OS or not, and he replied that he wanted Windows 10 Pro. I downloaded the ISO and installed it to one of my M.2 SATA SSD drives with a USB adapter.
Before installing Windows over my Linux installation, I did a SecureErase to wipe out my drive with the Linux installation because that is the SSD I am selling with the computer.
After installing Windows 10 from the M.2 SATA SSD with a USB adapter to the SecureErased drive, I instantly got multiple error messages about SMART checks saying that the SSD was broken/corrupted. I had never seen this POST error message when booting that computer with a Linux installation.
Well, I obviously had to change the drive to another one where I got the Windows installation to work normally without the BIOS POST error message.
I really cannot be sure what caused that. Can SecureErase do that so SMART checks report the drive as corrupted? Or was it the Windows installation?
Windows bad because I made a user error
Hm...Weird way to shift blame.
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Every time I try switching to Linux I run into some issue I just cant fix and go back to windows, currently pirated win10 IOT LTSC. Last time it was getting the USB ports to recognize an ESP32, the time before that graphics card drivers, the time before that it would either take ages to boot or not boot at all, the time before that software I couldnt get to run.
Maybe try another distro? Mint 22.1 works just fine right out of the box, and at this point Claude provides actual support better than scouring 3 forums in case you need small tweaks. Other than some proprietary fingerprint reader I never use, every machine I've used it on has been fine.
You can just do a live install from USB and test it before even installing.
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Butbutbutbut Linux is not ready for desktop! I asked a stupid question in an Arch forum and they told me to RTFM! It does not support kernel level anti-cheat! Terminals are scary!
Etc, etc.
It does not support kernel level anti-cheat!
Huh, thought you were mentioning only the cons.
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I'm also gonna sarcastically cherry-pick!
Are you? I didn't see it. If you're trying to make the opposite point, why don't you cherry pick the other way. Let's see what you've got or if this headline is just bullshit.
I'm currently running 50/50 windows/Ubuntu. I'm no Windows fanboy. But I'm also a software dev and I understand deprecating useless shit, something Windows doesn't do much of.
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Butbutbutbut Linux is not ready for desktop! I asked a stupid question in an Arch forum and they told me to RTFM! It does not support kernel level anti-cheat! Terminals are scary!
Etc, etc.
You jest but would you really install Arch on your grandmother’s PC?
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Which are based on LLMs or other neural network models. It is kind of the thing that language models are actually good at.
See DeepL for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeepL_Translator
The service uses a proprietary algorithm with convolutional neural networks (CNNs)[3] that have been trained with the Linguee database.[4][5]
According to the developers, the service uses a newer improved architecture of neural networks, which results in a more natural sound of translations than by competing services.
The translation is said to be generated using a supercomputer that reaches 5.1 petaflops and is operated in Iceland with hydropower.[6][7]
In general, CNNs are slightly more suitable for long coherent word sequences, but they have so far not been used by the competition because of their weaknesses compared to recurrent neural networks.
The weaknesses of DeepL are compensated for by supplemental techniques, some of which are publicly known.As someone who's played a few LLM translated games, it is in fact not good at it. There's a lot of contextual hints that get lost and slang terms tend to confuse it. It does make it close enough where a human that doesn't speak/read the original language could easily finish the translation though or still make it through the game.
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I switched to Mac after my old Asus laptop went out. I figure why bother with a PC laptop, it’s not gonna game and let’s see what the fuss is about. Love my MacBook Air. So then our desktop dies and I give my wife 3 options. A Mac, a cheaper PC, and a more expensive PC. She’s Android, figured she’d want to stick with Windows, but she picked the Mac! So happy. I mostly game on Switch and Xbox these days so that’s fine.
I keep feeling like I left Windows at the right time.
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You jest but would you really install Arch on your grandmother’s PC?
Linux is ideal for people who don't know how to use computers. I have installed Debian for lots of old people and kids. you set it up once and lock it down into users and all they need to do is click to open their web browser or email. kids pensioners and normies don't do anything on computers other than the occasional word processor document watching YouTube or Netflix or going on Facebook. the problems start when people know a little about computers and want to start installing stuff themselves.
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what movie is this from? I feel like I've seen it before many, many years ago.
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You jest but would you really install Arch on your grandmother’s PC?
Depends on her needs. If she uses it for Facebook, no problem, since I'll be admining her system anyways
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WHY ARE YOU NOT UPDATING TO WIN ELEVEN? Hard to recommend this OS without QA.
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Yep I do realize that.
And I still have the same opinion.
You're in the UK, so you're not bound by GDPR... but a whole lot of places and orgs that are bound by GDPR realize that MSFT products indeed are a joke from a data security standpoint, and are actively transitioning to linux or at the very least FOSS software.
I am in the US.
I literally used to work for MSFT, a few of their different locations around Seattle.
They are a fucking insane mess, internally, organizationally.
I worked with people, old timers who'd just casually tell me:
'Oh yeah back before Desert Storm, I was out in Saudi Arabia flashing the BIOS of computer hardware that was bound to be installed in Saddam's C&C and Air Defense Radar networks, some months later when time came for the air sorties, somebody else just flipped a switch and down goes all their radars!'
Aka a supply chain attack.
Aka, unless your definition of 'data security' is 'the NSA has all my data', then MSFT products are rather dubious at providing data security.
Like uh, did your org completely remove Copilot?
... Are you sure about that?
For starters in the UK we ARE bound by GDPR...
But it doesn't matter - you are assuming that companies care in the UK, they don't. You get Windows or Windows. As said a lot of software only runs on Windows, and this will continue until microsoft stop windows, corps don't care. Here in the UK Macs are rare, really really rare, in business. Heck in general use they are rare compared to Windows. Linux is nowhere, under 0.1%. You are literally forced to use Windows if you work for a company. My wife works for a charity and she has to use the company laptop, through the company VPN or else she gets warning and can be sacked... it really is that simple. The company controls what software is installed, even what updates are installed. Here in the UK the NHS buys around 5 million windows machines a year.... just imagine that -
Maybe try another distro? Mint 22.1 works just fine right out of the box, and at this point Claude provides actual support better than scouring 3 forums in case you need small tweaks. Other than some proprietary fingerprint reader I never use, every machine I've used it on has been fine.
You can just do a live install from USB and test it before even installing.
I don't bother testing using live boot anymore, often hardware will work on the live image but not work after it's installed.
Needing to try random distros is part of my frustration with Linux, I just want one that works out of the box.
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I don't bother testing using live boot anymore, often hardware will work on the live image but not work after it's installed.
Needing to try random distros is part of my frustration with Linux, I just want one that works out of the box.
OK, well what I'm trying to tell you is that unless you have some exotic hardware, Mint has the reputation of working right out of the box. Not great for gaming, so if that's a deal breaker, then that's it.
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For starters in the UK we ARE bound by GDPR...
But it doesn't matter - you are assuming that companies care in the UK, they don't. You get Windows or Windows. As said a lot of software only runs on Windows, and this will continue until microsoft stop windows, corps don't care. Here in the UK Macs are rare, really really rare, in business. Heck in general use they are rare compared to Windows. Linux is nowhere, under 0.1%. You are literally forced to use Windows if you work for a company. My wife works for a charity and she has to use the company laptop, through the company VPN or else she gets warning and can be sacked... it really is that simple. The company controls what software is installed, even what updates are installed. Here in the UK the NHS buys around 5 million windows machines a year.... just imagine thatWell technically its not the same GDPR, but w/e.
Point is:
Much of what MSFT does isn't GDPR compliant, or violates other data security and privacy laws in the EU or elsewhere, or just generally throws privacy and security by the wayside, as a matter of course.
Irish court approves first class action against Microsoft RTB data breach
ICCL secures permission for Ireland's first class action targeting Microsoft's real-time bidding data violations under GDPR.
PPC Land (ppc.land)
Microsoft's Recall Fails to Protect Sensitive Data Despite Privacy Filters
Microsoft's Recall feature captures sensitive financial data despite privacy filters, raising concerns about AI tool security and user privacy protection.
Gadget Review (www.gadgetreview.com)
This is just a teeny weeny sampling.
If you think MSFT gives a shit about actual data security and privacy, you're not following the just stream of lawsuits they just keep getting into, revolving around these issues.
Yeah if that means 99% of orgs have bad policy, by relying on a company with a terrible record on all this, the, uh then uh yeah, 99% of orgs are choosing to have the ability to blame someone else for their own bad decisions, over making better decisions.
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WHY ARE YOU NOT UPDATING TO WIN ELEVEN? Hard to recommend this OS without QA.
Your OS isn't getting regular updates!!!
This is a feature imo.
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You jest but would you really install Arch on your grandmother’s PC?
When my wife's grandparents had to get a new computer they got upset about the new windows interface and the fact their old games didn't work, so I set them up with Linux and a DE that resembled XP (it's what they were familiar with), and I was able to get most of their games going.
They used it without issue until they died.
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Well technically its not the same GDPR, but w/e.
Point is:
Much of what MSFT does isn't GDPR compliant, or violates other data security and privacy laws in the EU or elsewhere, or just generally throws privacy and security by the wayside, as a matter of course.
Irish court approves first class action against Microsoft RTB data breach
ICCL secures permission for Ireland's first class action targeting Microsoft's real-time bidding data violations under GDPR.
PPC Land (ppc.land)
Microsoft's Recall Fails to Protect Sensitive Data Despite Privacy Filters
Microsoft's Recall feature captures sensitive financial data despite privacy filters, raising concerns about AI tool security and user privacy protection.
Gadget Review (www.gadgetreview.com)
This is just a teeny weeny sampling.
If you think MSFT gives a shit about actual data security and privacy, you're not following the just stream of lawsuits they just keep getting into, revolving around these issues.
Yeah if that means 99% of orgs have bad policy, by relying on a company with a terrible record on all this, the, uh then uh yeah, 99% of orgs are choosing to have the ability to blame someone else for their own bad decisions, over making better decisions.
The point is arguing about something when you plainly don't understand how the UK still has GDPR doesn't really validate your opinions in any way shape or form...
The security doesn't matter, nothing other than Windows is used. To move to something else would cost so much that businesses simply cannot sustain that. We now have workers who have had 30 years of only working with Windows.... and new workers only get Windows. Doesn't matter what you or anybody else thinks, or says, it matters little. It is pretty much set in stone that you need Windows and Office in the UK, plus other software to make things like PDF's and documents. You can point anyone towards anything and it just doesn't matter... and here in the UK they don't care about lawsuits, we don't sue first and ask questions later - our legal system is just not setup that way. It is so difficult for other countries to understand, but that kind of approach just doesn't happen, and our legal system takes little notice of legal issues in countries like the US.
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