Mastodon says it doesn't 'have the means' to comply with age verification laws
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Because the US has humans inside it, despite what all the Eurocentric trash think.I let my anger control me, shouldn't have said this.
I wasn't being eurocentric. I was being Asia-Africa-Australia-South America-Europe-Canada-Mexico-Central America-Caribbea centric.
The only country where most of the right want to reduce gun safety is USA. We are talking in an international forum, so here international concepts count, not nation-specific. Typically in the world right-wingers are for safety and typically in the world the politics of the Democrat party count as right-wing.When in a conversation not specific to USA it is not okay to speak as if everything was about USA. It is not okay to speak as if there was a left-wing party in US Congress or Senate and it is not okay to claim that the right wants more dangerous gun policies.
And here we're talking about something that takes place most prominently in UK and secondly in a bunch of other countries, but absolutely not in USA. USA has nothing to do with this, so don't be as insolent as you were.
(Also, for example Australia is not in Europe. Learn some geography.)
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If I wanted you I was gonna steal your house, and you didn't leave, you'd be okay with your children being murdered? You're fucking nuts
Collateral damage. They knew this was going to happen, so it's their fault. And no, I'm no longer an Israel supporter, I'm against both sides.
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Please leave, your voice is not wanted here.
If you continue to spread blantant disinformation about the genocide of palestinians I will report you.
You could just read up on the facts
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Fucking creepy comment.
are you suggesting the Palestine government does not have a right to exist you antisemitic troll
Calling me antisemitic is funny.
And no, necer said that. Just calling the people stupid that let their children die for propaganda
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No effort could have evacuated the entire population of Gaza without free movement across land borders. It was never a practical option.
Even if it had been, parents making a dumbass decision doesn't justify killing their kids.
It doesn't justify it but it's expected collateral damage. And hamas would just hide behind children if they provided protection.
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You've been screaming about internet censorship since before the internet?
Fucking time traveller right here
What are you talking about? The internet existed all through the 90s
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have you tried being intentionally and absurdly wrong?
When Weird Al tries that, somehow he circles right back around to "right".
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Kids of Families who chose to stay despite efforts to evacuate them
Oh yeah just pack up and move! What an easy solution! Why didn't the Jews think of that back in the 30's and 40's? They could have ended the holocaust all on their own by simply leaving!
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That sounds like a very functional and rational solution to the problem of age verification. But age verification isn't the ultimate goal, it's mass surveillance, which your solution doesn't work for.
the problem of age verification
what exactly is the problem, though?
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Oh yeah just pack up and move! What an easy solution! Why didn't the Jews think of that back in the 30's and 40's? They could have ended the holocaust all on their own by simply leaving!
Uh yeah just go. Die or go but don't complain if you die because you didn't wanna go. This was to be expected
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When Weird Al tries that, somehow he circles right back around to "right".
i should pay more attention. we had a chance to see him live the other day but it was a very bad time for us at work to go so next tour we hope
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Online banking passwords? "Find"? How the hell? Have you lived in a barrel?
There is a 8-number code that I've got in my head, then there is a 4-number password that I've also got in my head. And then a paper with single-use passwords which work so that when I have given the two correct passwords, it tells me which code to use. And no way am I giving full access to my bank account for my children!
Some banks also have a system where you log in with your fingerprint and then a four-number code using an app on your phone.
I think the money on the parents' accounts is a much better motivation for the children than an ability to watch porn. And yet, I have not heard of anybody's children actually having found out their parent's bank passwords.
And also: Maybe there really is a child that installs a keylogger on their parents' computer and steals the password paper from the parents' wallet and also happens to really want to go out of their way to watch porn... Well, then there is. Such a child is already in so many ways in trouble that I don't think seeing porn will traumatize them at all. Such children are few and it makes no sense trying to build a 100-percent foolproof system. In any case, using online banking passwords is a lot more reliable way than the weird hocus-pocus being done now.
My point is that you can't build a completely teenager-proof system. Even if most parents uphold the most unimpeachable password discipline, someone's going to put a password on a post-it note near their computer, and have their child see the piece of paper, or use their dog's name despite their child having also met the family dog.
The original comment I was replying to was framing the issue as teenagers being allowed to watch porn versus no teenager ever seeing porn and maybe some freedom is sacrificed to do that, which doesn't match the real-world debate. If freedoms are sacrificed just to make it a hassle for teenagers to see porn, that's much less compelling whether or not you see it as a worthwhile goal.
As for what a teenager with access to their parents' bank password would do, if they're not a moron, they'll realise that spending their parents' money will leave lots of evidence (e.g. that they have extra stuff, their parents have less money than expected in their account, and there's an unexpected purchase from The Lego Group on the bank statement), and so they're guaranteed to end up in trouble for it. It's not any different to a child taking banknotes from their parent's wallet. On the other hand, using it to prove adulthood, if it was truly untraceable like adults would want, wouldn't leave a paper trail.
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Government sets up page to verify age. You head to it, no referrer. Age check happens by trusted entity (your government, not some sketchy big tech ass), they create a signed cert with a short lifespan to prevent your kid using the one you created yesterday and without the knowledge which service it is for. It does not contain a reference to your identity. You share that cert with the service you want to use, they verify the signature, your age, save the passing and everyone is happy. Your government doesn't know that you're into ladies with big booties, the big booty service doesn't know your identity and you wank along in private.
But oh no, that wouldn't work because think of the... I have no clue.
You sell that cert to a local kid for $50
You generate another cert to sell to a local kid tomorrow
???
Profit
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I don't see how Mississippi or the UK think they can issue laws on sites hosted outside their jurisdiction. That's just mind boggling. The onus is on the state to provide age verification, or make their ISPs do it.
"You have no power here" - Some server hosted on a satellite (probably)
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You've been screaming about internet censorship since before the internet?
Fucking time traveller right here
... I was online in 1993, bro. I was dialing into BBSs with worldwide fidonet bulletin boards even earlier than that.
Don't be such a dipshit.
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... I was online in 1993, bro. I was dialing into BBSs with worldwide fidonet bulletin boards even earlier than that.
Don't be such a dipshit.
Back in my day we had to dial in to get the internet.
GoddamnGl Gubberment ruining everything
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What are you talking about? The internet existed all through the 90s
It sure did. Well done!
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You've been screaming about internet censorship since before the internet?
Fucking time traveller right here
Brother, delete this silly comment and be a nicer person. Please, there is still time!
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I wasn't being eurocentric. I was being Asia-Africa-Australia-South America-Europe-Canada-Mexico-Central America-Caribbea centric.
The only country where most of the right want to reduce gun safety is USA. We are talking in an international forum, so here international concepts count, not nation-specific. Typically in the world right-wingers are for safety and typically in the world the politics of the Democrat party count as right-wing.When in a conversation not specific to USA it is not okay to speak as if everything was about USA. It is not okay to speak as if there was a left-wing party in US Congress or Senate and it is not okay to claim that the right wants more dangerous gun policies.
And here we're talking about something that takes place most prominently in UK and secondly in a bunch of other countries, but absolutely not in USA. USA has nothing to do with this, so don't be as insolent as you were.
(Also, for example Australia is not in Europe. Learn some geography.)
Despite what they think, we are human beings too over here. That's my point.
I don't care about the politics of nation vs nation.
I care about humanity's liberty as a whole.
Nations are shit. Because the only ones in power are typically the ones who want to be. And there's no one worse to hand power to, than one who craves it.
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No, it's upto the individuals to police their or their childrens internet usage, have family computer in place they can monitor, children should have special childrens phones that are locked down with parents configuring it, today parents are abdicating responsibility, leaving schools to feed, potty train, how to clean teeth and how to behave.
Whats next expecting schools to provide beds and rooms to sleep in, soon babies will be handed to state and raised by the state, is it any wonder we now have a nanny state in many countries, people are getting lazy and filthy, spitting in streets, peeing and pooping in streets, dumping rubbish in streets
Sorry, the sort of individualism you speak of only applies to opting out of vaccines and praying to jeebus in the classroom.
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