CALL FOR URGENT ACTION to stop Chat Control legislation in EU
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Until they decide those tools are illegal as well. They solve a different problem. The government will ban things it cannot control so you have to fight governments directly, not just work around them.
Guys, we got a wolf
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Citizen's Initiatives are great, but I'm not sure they are the right mechanism in this case.
They are meant to make parliament address a concern, and not to inform legislators how you feel about a law proposal that is already on the table. All a Citizen's Initiative does is force the European parliament to address a concern if a certain threshold of signatures is met. They will be doing that anyway when the law proposal is being voted on.
And on top of that, the time frame for a Citizen's Initiative is too long (over a year) to be a meaningful shield against Chat Control.
Contacting your representatives to the European Parliament is probably the best way forward at this point.
Perhaps an initiative should be started that introduces a law banning such laws?
Also I still think contacting your politicians directly (and telling friends and family to do the same) will have better result than change.org petition, but there's nothing stopping people to do both.
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Maybe I should reread hitchikers guide to the galaxy then
Don't forget your towel!
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Yeah, of course, but it does happend from time to time(especially for hitchiker's guide).
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I am so tired of this shit... every year they try to do this shit again. Every year we again have to convince them not too. Then a year later they try again.
They will keep trying until they win. Instead of focusing on important things, they just want to push laws for more control. Even our representatives should KNOW that people don't want this.
I always wonder that. When we mass call and email to let them know they are wrong on something incredibly obvious. Do they go "oh wow we didn't know you didn't want us to know your private conversations or have a list of your favorite porn categories
"? They should already know this.
yall gonna need some proverbial guiliotining, tbh. this is just another power grab.
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Thoughtcrime is near...
They are already rounding up anyone protesting against genocide.
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Take note that there are lobbies pushing for these. Security state, police and religious fanatics wanting morality policing, also politicians who re afraid of popular upheaval.
The biggest lobby pushing this is companies like Thorn, who promise to provide (I.e. sell) the technology required to comply with such a law. It's literally just a business investment for them.
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EU is a regulation superpower.
And in most cases it's really good, thought out, constantly moving with the market & reports/reviews on it's efficiency.
It gets fucky when personal interests (like "politicians keeping down crime & protecting the kids", or lobbyists doing the same) get mixed in tho.
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I'm fully onboard, we have to fight this for everyone's sake.
Not completely related, but is this 100-mil-in-profits the best option to gather signatures?
Via wiki/Change.org:Change.org is a website which allows users to create and sign petitions in an attempt to advance various social causes by raising awareness and influencing decision-makers. The site is a US-based for-profit company and claims to have 557 million users as of August 2025.
Isn't there a EU site to petition?
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Oh so this was the real reason they wanted interconnected chat apps.
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But it's for EU citizens only right ?
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Yeah, of course, but it does happend from time to time(especially for hitchiker's guide).
Examples from hitchhikers?
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I'm fully onboard, we have to fight this for everyone's sake.
Not completely related, but is this 100-mil-in-profits the best option to gather signatures?
Via wiki/Change.org:Change.org is a website which allows users to create and sign petitions in an attempt to advance various social causes by raising awareness and influencing decision-makers. The site is a US-based for-profit company and claims to have 557 million users as of August 2025.
Isn't there a EU site to petition?
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/petitions/Didn't even know there was an EU website for that. Would be neat to have it there.
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I'm fully onboard, we have to fight this for everyone's sake.
Not completely related, but is this 100-mil-in-profits the best option to gather signatures?
Via wiki/Change.org:Change.org is a website which allows users to create and sign petitions in an attempt to advance various social causes by raising awareness and influencing decision-makers. The site is a US-based for-profit company and claims to have 557 million users as of August 2025.
Isn't there a EU site to petition?
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/petitions/Going to sign it when it's there and not on some US site.
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Here's a tool to quickly email you're representatives about chatcontrol. It's really easy to use and is generally great!
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The biggest lobby pushing this is companies like Thorn, who promise to provide (I.e. sell) the technology required to comply with such a law. It's literally just a business investment for them.
Yeah, and, unsurprisingly, the actual experts on child abuse and privacy are mostly against this.